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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #45 - 03/18/17 at 10:59:19 It bothers me that it's in cast aluminum. I'm not against the approach, I do it, too. I'm also aware of the times I've had a four pound hammer beating on a rod, driving something out.. and it's not moving. I get the air chisel with the straight rod, push, pull the trigger, and Blammo,, it's out.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #46 - 03/18/17 at 12:22:15 I have 3 different size air hammers here at work , they get used all the time too ! It's all different techniques for different problems. Equipment here varies from 15,000 lbs to 170,000 lbs so it can be a task at times repairing this stuff !
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kiwi rider 89 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 23	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #47 - 03/18/17 at 15:05:40 I had the exact same problem last night, I put the bike on its side with padding and used this...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #48 - 03/18/17 at 16:11:04 Well, looks like that cast will handle it.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #49 - 03/18/17 at 19:15:24 Been a wrench for over 25 years and I Never use a 12 point socket unless it's a 12 point bolt , I always use 6 point socket !!!
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #50 - 03/18/17 at 19:33:26 You don't have to beat it to death , it's a technique!
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #51 - 03/18/17 at 19:35:05 Ruttly wrote on 03/18/17 at 19:15:24: Been a wrench for over 25 years and I Never use a 12 point socket unless it's a 12 point bolt , I always use 6 point socket !!! Amen brother
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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #52 - 03/18/17 at 19:47:28

I bought a set of Craftsman 6 point box end combination wrenches.

12 point wrenches are the destroyer of good bolts & nuts.

I even put a paper towel over the bolt head and push the 6 point wrench down over it to make sure I have a tight fitting wrench to remove a tight bolt.

I am a firm believer in using a soldering iron on the head of really tight bolts or machine screws before wrenching.

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kiwi rider 89 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 23	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #53 - 03/18/17 at 21:50:54 In new Zealand non of the car/macanacil stores stock the 6 sided wrenches as standard lines even the specialty stores have to order them in
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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #54 - 03/19/17 at 08:18:41

Kenny G wrote on 03/18/17 at 19:47:28:

I am a firm believer in using a soldering iron on the head of really tight bolts or machine screws before wrenching.

Kenny, is that backwards? Don't you want to heat whatever the bolt is screwed into and keep the bolt cool? That way the female threads expand with heat and don't grip the bolt as tight.

I may be wrong. It's happened before. Grin

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twhitus Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 101 Pinellas park, floida	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #55 - 03/19/17 at 08:35:33 worst case you could always use a hand vacuum pump and pull the oil out of the case through the filler hole till you get the bottom bolt sorted.
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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #56 - 03/19/17 at 08:40:02

You can use heat on the bolt, let it stay in the heat long enough to transfer heat to the case, then hold ice on the bolt.

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rt of it is the difference in expansion rates between different metals. Metals expand at different rates depending on the density of the metals. Most cases are made of aluminum or magnesium, and most bolts are made of steel. Aluminum and magnesium expand at a great rate than steel. When you apply heat to the bolt, the heat is transferred to the the surrounding material. Therefore, the case material expands at a greater rate than the bolt, making the clearances between the bolt and case greater and releasing the friction that hold the parts together. Cooling the parts before you disassemble them allows the clearances to close up to the standard clearances. It may release the bond of a thread locker like loctitie, but removing the bolts while the materials are still hot will work better in most cases.

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Kenny G Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com The Singles Club...LOL Posts: 1754 Robson Ranch, Denton, Texas Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #57 - 03/19/17 at 09:46:19 Kris, I want to heat the bolt to expand it as much as possible, and then let it cool before I put the wrench on it. It helps, sometimes. Kenny G
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Kenny G Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com The Singles Club...LOL Posts: 1754 Robson Ranch, Denton, Texas Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #58 - 03/19/17 at 11:49:16 Justin, I hope there is never a next time, but if there is I will try wrenching while the bolt is still hot. Kenny G
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #59 - 03/19/17 at 19:54:51 Kenny, I guess it "wiggles" it loose a little at a time.
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