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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #30 - 03/16/17 at 11:04:22

or these:

Ditto that !

These things also seem to work miracles !

Or, you may want to go the "Old World Way"

One suggestion, if everything you've tried won't work.

The oil drain plug on my bike is 14mm.
Never mind how much that is in inches, it's 14mm, period.
Get a file and file away a little where you can reach in order to have one flattened side, and file away on the opposite side, so you end up with a... flattened round head.

If you file away enough, you can slip a 12mm or a 1/2" wrench and give it a twist.

Last - see if you can find a Torz nut with the same pitch as the 14mm nut.
Nuts and bolts will get rounded out, Torx? Never !

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #31 - 03/16/17 at 13:31:15 I can't wait to hear what approach gets tried.
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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #32 - 03/16/17 at 14:05:46 And which one ends up working ....
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #33 - 03/16/17 at 14:15:31 A few ideas don't leave much room for a Do Over. Might wanna start with an idea that Can be Amped Up.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #34 - 03/16/17 at 15:19:39 Ruttly the caveman advises Hammer & Chisel , would have been done long ago for cheap !
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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #35 - 03/16/17 at 18:15:36

What about the candle and cigarette lighter idea that was going around the web? Heat the plug with a cigarette lighter, have a wax candle handy and get the plug warm enough to allow the candle to melt and theoretically wick down the threads. Then apply your Vicegrips, cold chisel, or what ever else you have to loosen the plug. I've seen this on the web, so it HAS to be true.

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #36 - 03/16/17 at 18:55:42 It may be true , but it might be difficult to get the candle to drip UP to the drain plug !
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #37 - 03/16/17 at 19:03:55 Uh, not that I doubt the persons aptitude, but just in case, I mean, you are sorta doing things in reverse, as you are wrenching upward, so... Just a reminder, righty tighty, lefty loosely
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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #38 - 03/17/17 at 03:33:45

jcstokes wrote on 03/16/17 at 18:15:36:

What about the candle and cigarette lighter idea that was going around the web? Heat the plug with a cigarette lighter, have a wax candle handy and get the plug warm enough to allow the candle to melt and theoretically wick down the threads. Then apply your Vicegrips, cold chisel, or what ever else you have to loosen the plug. I've seen this on the web, so it HAS to be true.

I have a tough time believing this is a corrosion issue. The bolt has a sealing washer under the head......and there is a couple of quarts of oil on the inside of the engine that most likely has the threads well lubricated.

Likely this is just one of those times when the previous fellow cranked the drain plug waaaaaay too tight. When I bought my used Savage and changed oil the first time - I had to put both hands on the wrench and wedge my foot against the tire to get enough pull to loosen it. The drain plug only needs to be snugged down to prevent a leak - it does not hold the engine together!

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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #39 - 03/17/17 at 08:15:35

I went and looked.. no way way to drill from the end.
An Impact socket isn't as hard as chrome.
With proper orientation and clearancing to fit , a roll pin with a piece of piano wire filling it would probably get it.
Talking about fitting a predrilled on one side, socket, drill through, roll pin then drive piano wire in the roll pin. Lots of details to get it right.

Or, get a nut and get it welded
Or, try a funny looking pipe wrench.

I can't see winning it without laying it down.

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gizzo Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiCabbage. It's Savage. Posts: 1318 Australia	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #40 - 03/17/17 at 17:00:29 There's so many ways to skin this cat. The welded nut is almost certainly the easiest, quickest most reliable way. Just get someone who knows how to mig or tig (properly, you know?) and have at it. 5 minutes work.
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Ed L. Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline "We All go a Little Crazy Sometimes" Norman Bates Posts: 2808 Sunny Florida Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #41 - 03/17/17 at 19:36:30 Get a dremel with a thin cutoff tip on it and slot the head turning it into a screw. Catching the edge of the bolt with a cold chisel and hammer might work if there is enough room.
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buster6315 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 353	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #42 - 03/17/17 at 22:27:55 Ruttlys' advice is best! Technique! KISS!
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #43 - 03/18/17 at 00:39:25 Maybe a larger diameter would be approachable with a chisel. It's in cast aluminum and will need WAILED upon to create a rotational force greater than the torque required to goober the plug with a wrench.
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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #44 - 03/18/17 at 10:21:28

Silly Texan you know how sometimes your bending the ratchet handle trying to loosen a bolt and it don't move , so you drag out your air compressor & hose & impact gun & socket and then pull the trigger and it wasn't even tight it came spinning right off. Granted it's primitive way of doing it and you must have your technique down, I rarely use my chisel as a chisel , its used to show my fellow mechanics how easy it is to remove damaged drain plugs then when it fails I drag out the welder and weld a nut on it ! I think if it was warmed up he might get it with a external extractor too ! But hammer/chisel first cause it quick easy & effective!

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