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Oil change gone wrong
03/15/17 at 08:12:55

So, the picture says it all. Bought the bike used. Went to change the oil and the drain plug is almost a circle. Box wrench obviously won't work. Tried sockets but it is too shallow. Tried impact, rounded more. Don't want to go to the dealer and I don't want to do anything like lean the bike to drain the oil. I want this plug out. What haven't I tried that can work? Huh

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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #3 - 03/15/17 at 08:52:57

You can drain the oil out of the timing port and tipping it. But I hear ya... last ditch effort.

Once the head is completely rounded off, including the shoulders that seat against the case, it should come out.
The threads on the plug are a tight fit and will seal by themselves... could be tight only if they were cross threaded... not likely.
So, get yourself a good pair of vice grips (not from HF) and keep trying.

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Reply #4 - 03/15/17 at 08:58:30

The first question is "why is it so buggered up?"

My guess is that it's over-torqued or possibly frozen and the previous owner just didn't have the correct tools and made a bad situation worse.

It looks like you've got once chance left on this. I'd use penetrating oil for sure. But I'd lay the bike on its side so gravity will help the oil get into the threads. Keeping the bike on its side, a just prior to using a stripped bolt socket and an impact driver, I'd heat the case. If this thing is frozen you run the risk of cracking the case. A bolt extractor may work...but I think you might end up with the head of the extractor stuck in the rounded drain bolt.

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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #5 - 03/15/17 at 09:03:50

springman wrote on 03/15/17 at 08:39:30:

Hello Hoodlum333. First apply liquid wrench or any other penetrating oil. Then purchase or borrow a socket set specifically for stripped bolt heads and it should come off. You can buy these sockets at harbor freight or probably any hardware store. Good luck.

Springman, would love to do that, but there is no clearance for a socket and wrench - unless the socket was about 3/4" deep or less.

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stewmills Serious Thumper Offline Imagination is more important than knowledge Posts: 2641 Auburn, AL Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #7 - 03/15/17 at 09:17:49 or these:
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stewmills Serious Thumper Offline Imagination is more important than knowledge Posts: 2641 Auburn, AL Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #8 - 03/15/17 at 09:18:12 Or try the coin/washer trick:
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Oil change gone wrong Reply #9 - 03/15/17 at 10:10:25 Hammer & Chisel, once you get it to move then try vise grips.
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Re: Oil change gone wrong
Reply #11 - 03/15/17 at 10:48:47

First......go get a new drain plug bolt.....you are going to need it.

You might try riding the bike so the engine is warm before you try to remove it....the aluminum expands more than the steel, and it mght be a bit looser.

If I was in that position and a "quality" set of vice grips didn't get the job done....I would weld a nut on the end of the bolt. Lay the bike on the side, and arc or mig weld on a large nut. Have a wrench handy and loosen up the drain bolt before it cools off. If you don't have a welder, take your new drain bolt, a large nut and matching wrench (best if the nut does not have shiny plating on it), to a local weld shop, or mechanic who has a welder, and get them to help you. No hacks or inexperienced guys......somebody who has been around a while.

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Reply #13 - 03/15/17 at 11:14:16

No hacks or inexperienced guys......somebody who has been around a while.

As you're well aware, there just isn't much room for a grinder, or wrench. Be sure that your New Nut is not gonna be so big a wrench that fits won't be too big to fit in the area between your nut and the engine case and still spin. You can hog the inside of the nut out to fit your goobered up oil plug. A rotary file and die grinder and a vise..
You can also shape the oil plug, flatten opposite sides and get the vise grip a better grip.

No hacks or inexperienced guys......somebody who has been around a while.

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