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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Duct tape won't fix it. 03/01/17 at 16:49:42 So, you Know it's serious. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhpFa5hECfc Oroville dam , it's a mess.
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: Duct tape won't fix it. Reply #1 - 03/01/17 at 20:05:42 Looks like the roads up here in snow country. Thankfully, the dam did not fail. Yeah!
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Duct tape won't fix it. Reply #2 - 03/01/17 at 23:14:18 No, it didn't. Either it was designed wrong, construction wasn't up to par, something,, but a Spillway is supposed to let water Cross over, not wash away. That's gonna take some very clever work.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28804 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Duct tape won't fix it. Reply #3 - 03/02/17 at 07:52:14 Feds said earlier that upgrades were necessary... but it's not raining now.
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Reply #4 - 03/02/17 at 08:09:59

I can't imagine the engineering that it will take to get in, remove the compromised areas, get fill put in, and compacted and connected to the healthy parts. Yeah, it's an earthen dam, but the building up from zero is done a bit differently than I would expect putting a scab in a wound. My big questions are still, was the spillway obviously compromised before they were forced to use it? When was the time they had to use it? Was it a bad design, or was it not built to specification?
Whatever caused it, it's a hot mess.
Talk about shovel ready...

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28804 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Duct tape won't fix it. Reply #5 - 03/02/17 at 09:52:30 IDK, I don't see rebar hanging out at every break. Obviously, there's bed rock there or it'd be all gone. I believe they said they were over the maximum designed flow rate. If they hadn't allowed the dam to fill to 80% and then projected another week of rain, they might've been able to release water below the designed flow rate.
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: Duct tape won't fix it. Reply #6 - 03/02/17 at 11:16:28 I vaguely remember on day 2 or 3 some news (or not real news) org reporting that there were upgrades recommended a while back. I think that as with most things, we build up to a percentage of probable problems, but not 100% or nothing would ever get built. I hope they take a hint and repair it robustly.
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Reply #7 - 03/02/17 at 16:28:49

verslagen1 wrote on 03/02/17 at 09:52:30:

IDK, I don't see rebar hanging out at every break.
Obviously, there's bed rock there or it'd be all gone.
I believe they said they were over the maximum designed flow rate.
If they hadn't allowed the dam to fill to 80% and then projected another week of rain, they might've been able to release water below the designed flow rate.

I thought letting it get so full with rain coming was pretty dumb.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9023 Minn Gender:	Re: Duct tape won't fix it. Reply #8 - 03/02/17 at 17:21:16 Just wondering, why the, ‘Leaves’, failed in ‘Orleans. It seems like, they were, ‘designed’, correctly, yet the locals, who were, ' payed', for the ‘correct design’, *spent the Money, on themselves.* (as reported in, very Well Hidden, reports) Could the same thing have happen in CALF ? Na, no way. !!!!!!
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