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Reply #91 - 01/11/17 at 16:49:06

Joer0952 wrote on 01/11/17 at 15:10:05:

there are over 109million people on some form of government assistance, even if only 2% of them are in those groups that would constitute millions

Yes, "some form". That's the key - that means everything from disability, to medicaid, to snap, etc. And again, there is no data to support what you stated.

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Reply #93 - 01/12/17 at 17:58:11

T And T Garage wrote on 01/10/17 at 15:41:02:

[ ... PC used as a tool?? Are people that threatened by morality? I'm not sure how political correctness encourages ignorance... ... "

Saved some crumbs from my toast this morning,
Tossed them over the bridge.

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Reply #94 - 01/12/17 at 20:41:39

T And T Garage wrote on 01/11/17 at 16:49:06:

" ... there is no data to support what you stated.

Found a few more crumbs to throw over the bridge.

Lets see, Llhan Omar, (Minn Elected House).
Her district, 37,000 (Possible, Voters, over 18)
2,582 are on, FOOD STAMPS,
1,090, are on, CASH Assistance. (Here means, pure total, GIMMIE, GIMMIE)
and, 10,240, on SUPPLEMENTAL, Social Security.

JUST, taking the, FOOD STAMPS, and the, Gimmie, GIMMERS.
That is almost 10%, of the, ‘could be’, voters.
And that area, is, TOTLAY, Somalian !!!!!!!
From people, who were, ‘BROUGHT HERE’,
Who paid NOTHING, for Housing, Health care, Food, and EDUCATION !!!!!!!

(Where a Tax Paying CITIZENS, of the USA and MN, Whose, Grand Parents PAID Taxes, who Patents Paid TAXES, who Students PAID Taxes for, which HAVE to PAY, at the rate of, $40,000.00 a YEAR, (+/-) which, “ Llhan Omar’ went to for FREE. and NO ONE, EVER PAID ANY of her costs EVER. It was FREE, to a person, NEVER PAYING ONE CENT ! !!!!!)

OK, Snowflake, Prove me wrong.
Would Love for you to find, MN, stats, on how many, what percent, the demographics, the Citizenship, of those Voting.
I can’t, because the, Ultra-LIBERAL, Minn (State) site does NOT POST THEM !!!!!!!

OH, Wait. Guess I should Not Complain,
after all, It Is to the like of, Bernie & H.R.C.,
That I, should PAY, for, FREE,
so that 1n 15 years, (+/-), because I PAYED for their FREE,
’they’ can tell me, ‘I Have to PAY MORE’,
(For their FREE) !!!!!

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Reply #95 - 01/13/17 at 08:16:13

MnSpring wrote on 01/12/17 at 20:41:39:

[color=#0000ff]T And T Garage wrote on 01/11/17 at 16:49:06:

" ... there is no data to support what you stated.

Found a few more crumbs to throw over the bridge.

Lets see, Llhan Omar, (Minn Elected House).
Her district, 37,000 (Possible, Voters, over 18)
2,582 are on, FOOD STAMPS,
1,090, are on, CASH Assistance. (Here means, pure total, GIMMIE, GIMMIE)
and, 10,240, on SUPPLEMENTAL, Social Security.

JUST, taking the, FOOD STAMPS, and the, Gimmie, GIMMERS.
That is almost 10%, of the, ‘could be’, voters.
And that area, is, TOTLAY, Somalian !!!!!!!
From people, who were, ‘BROUGHT HERE’,
Who paid NOTHING, for Housing, Health care, Food, and EDUCATION !!!!!!!

(Where a Tax Paying CITIZENS, of the USA and MN, Whose, Grand Parents PAID Taxes, who Patents Paid TAXES, who Students PAID Taxes for, which HAVE to PAY, at the rate of, $40,000.00 a YEAR, (+/-) which, “ Llhan Omar’ went to for FREE. and NO ONE, EVER PAID ANY of her costs EVER. It was FREE, to a person, NEVER PAYING ONE CENT ! !!!!!)

OK, Snowflake, Prove me wrong.
Would Love for you to find, MN, stats, on how many, what percent, the demographics, the Citizenship, of those Voting.
I can’t, because the, Ultra-LIBERAL, Minn (State) site does NOT POST THEM !!!!!!!

OH, Wait. Guess I should Not Complain,
after all, It Is to the like of, Bernie & H.R.C.,
That I, should PAY, for, FREE,
so that 1n 15 years, (+/-), because I PAYED for their FREE,
’they’ can tell me, ‘I Have to PAY MORE’,
(For their FREE) !!!!!

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No, that's ok sweetie pie, there's no need for me to try and prove you wrong. Your anger speaks volumes. I'll let you rant.

The fact is, I don't have a problem with what you posted.

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Re: About that wall...
Reply #96 - 01/13/17 at 14:22:56

T And T Garage wrote on 01/11/17 at 16:50:20:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/11/17 at 16:26:35:

College was affordable before the government got into the student loan business.

Agreed.

I think it has more to do with the fact that colleges know if they raise tuition financial aid will cover it. Financial aid is just a way of redistributing wealth and should be stopped. College is a place to get an education so you can get a job there is no need to give people who are poor a free education because presumably after they graduate they can get a good job (not be poor anymore) and be able to pay back loans they would have taken out to get said degree. Well that is if they don't get a degree in gender studies or lesbian dance theory.

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Reply #98 - 01/13/17 at 14:44:13

all financial aid does is give people who are poor a free education so when they graduate they make more money then their colleagues that have the same salary but have to pay back their student loans. It also has the added benefit of jacking up the price of college for those that do pay in cash or with loans since those people have to subsidize all the free education others are getting

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Reply #99 - 01/13/17 at 15:02:01

Personally, I would've been able to get a sizable amount if I was able to prove my heritage.

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It also has the added benefit of jacking up the price of college for those that do pay in cash or with loans since those people have to subsidize all the free education others are getting

Since private vs. state colleges have always been 10x more, I don't believe that is true.
Financial aid is only a burden to the tax payers.
And student loans are subsidized with low interest.

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Reply #100 - 01/13/17 at 15:08:12

verslagen1 wrote on 01/13/17 at 15:02:01:

Personally, I would've been able to get a sizable amount if I was able to prove my heritage.

I don't know what your heritage is, but the point I am trying to make is that financial aid just makes other people pay for those students education. I think it would be much fairer if everyone just paid for their own education. No one should be denied a higher education if they don't have the money, but they should have to take out student loans and pay them back with the job that they got from the degree, which was the point of the education they received in the first place.

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Reply #101 - 01/13/17 at 15:15:56

Joer0952 wrote on 01/13/17 at 15:08:12:

I don't know what your heritage is, but the point I am trying to make is that financial aid just makes other people pay for those students education. I think it would be much fairer if everyone just paid for their own education. No one should be denied a higher education if they don't have the money, but they should have to take out student loans and pay them back with the job that they got from the degree, which was the point of the education they received in the first place.

That would be true if we were talking about a fair employment society.
Try getting a fair wage on any reservation 100 yrs ago.
Even 50 yrs ago you hid your heritage to get equal employment.

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Reply #102 - 01/13/17 at 15:25:29

verslagen1 wrote on 01/13/17 at 15:15:56:

Joer0952 wrote on 01/13/17 at 15:08:12:

I don't know what your heritage is, but the point I am trying to make is that financial aid just makes other people pay for those students education. I think it would be much fairer if everyone just paid for their own education. No one should be denied a higher education if they don't have the money, but they should have to take out student loans and pay them back with the job that they got from the degree, which was the point of the education they received in the first place.

That would be true if we were talking about a fair employment society.
Try getting a fair wage on any reservation 100 yrs ago.
Even 50 yrs ago you hid your heritage to get equal employment.

I am not concerned for the sake of this argument about 100 or 50 years ago I am talking about modern day

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