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justin_o_guy2
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Re: The real reason Hillary lost.....
Reply #15 - 12/18/16 at 15:20:20
 
An argument for what?
Rewind the clock?
What are you trying to get at?
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Reply #16 - 12/18/16 at 16:25:40
 
The statement:
“ Culturally and politically speaking, Syria is much closer to Israel than one might think."
W.T.F. ???
Don’t remember any Jews,  Beheading, Stoning, Raping, throwing people off buildings.
  (For not believing what they believe)
Must have miss that news.

Than the, ’tossed out’,  comment:
“ (actually, he was entitled to do so much more than Gen. Austin was entitled to invade Texas, but tghat’s another story)”
From a person, whose Country, has a history, of  pillaging, bribing, looting, and raping.  Cut off heads, put them on poles, so it was  easier to collect, ’taxes’, so they can do it again, and, ‘expand’ a empire.

Would like to hear, his, ’take’ on Austin.
And while at it, his take, on  Fremont, guided by Carson,
and his, view, on what he did  on the 3  West  Expeditions. 1842-46

Does all that early American History, matter today?
Does what the  Romans did, matter today?
Does what the, Crusaders did, matter today?
(In a way, yea, but we have Already Learned, from History. Well most have)
Today ?   We got  Bigger problems.
Would, ’some’, things, be done differently, today.
Most  Probably.

And a ‘view’, from a person, who knows  little, about early, (West), American History, is  Irrelevant.

But to, ’state’, that, Israel &  Syria, Today, are ‘close’  in their, ‘Human Rights’,  dealings.
WTF


Mpes,  Has had insightful thoughts.
Outside of quoting, (Pages & Pages), of webs sites, about 500 + year old things that are not relevant today.
(We have already, learned those lessons)

But to, ’state’, that, Israel &  Syria, Today, are ‘close’  in their, ‘Human Rights’,  dealings.

WTF
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Reply #17 - 12/18/16 at 16:41:10
 
Ask yourself
Where are my facts from?
Now, unless I  have been there, unless I KNOW.
I'm at least gonna listen to someone who has a whole different perspective. I'd be interested in seeing how the comparison works out.
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Reply #18 - 12/18/16 at 17:24:44
 
Yo Springer.....

What matters today is what they want to matter today, like, Trumpy was a stupid doe doe bird talking about the election being tampered with...
They called him stooge, stupid, and a fool.
He got very little press willing to scrutinize the possibility.

Clinton loses....
Toss chit on the wall.
See what sticks.
Not much.
Running out of chit.

Throw tampering with election result chit on wall....
Now it matters.

So, was Trump right all along?
Will they admit they were wrong?
No, that doesn't matter now.
We need to just toss more chit.

Bill power frucked chicks using his position.
It didn't matter.
It was only sex.
An intern gives him hummer....
It doesn't matter.
It was only sex.

Trump talked, like most of us guys, about snatch.
Grabbing it.
Enjoying it.
Man exhibiting all his ugly horndawg talk....

THAT MATTERS....

EVEN IF IT WAS MANY YEARS AGO....

Does this help you to understand and clarify the insanity?
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Reply #19 - 12/18/16 at 17:28:47
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/18/16 at 16:41:10:
" ...Where are my facts from? Now, unless I  have been there, unless I KNOW.  I'm at least gonna listen to someone who has a whole different perspective. I'd be interested in seeing how the comparison works out.


Where are my facts from?

On Romans,  Crusades,  Early West American History.
Would be the same books and Web sites.

Now, unless I  have been there, unless I KNOW.
I am not that old, and I don’t thinks  Meeps is that old.

I'm at least gonna listen to someone who has a whole different perspective.
Different POV’s would be Just like the Last  Election !

I’d be interested in seeing how the comparison works out.    
So would I, So Would I.

My, Early West American history, come from old books.
(And Meps will look up thing on the, new, web)
Also, I have, ‘oral Tradition’, from time spent in AZ,
in talking to old people, who’s, Grandfathers, said, ’this or that’.

True, or Not ????
But you KNOW, their is, a kernel of truth to those, recounting.

Syria, like  Israel ?
Both, reading  the SAME   News !
Which comes down to,
‘al gore, ’the sky is falling’
to: ’still coming out of the last Ice Age’.

Meeps,  Please tell us how, Israeli, DEMANDS,  
that everyone, believe,  what they believe,
and if you do not, you will be  KILLED !



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Reply #20 - 12/18/16 at 18:34:26
 
raydawg wrote on 12/18/16 at 17:24:44:
" ... Does this help you to understand and clarify the insanity?

Well, from the,  ‘Country Mouse’  to the, ‘City Slicker’.
From the statement of, ‘YOU ARE  RACIEST”,
    (the campaining in the 08, 12 elections)
Seeing  Local  Government,  ‘PAID THE PALMS’.
Etc, etc, etc.,   All  Personal Experiences.
I think I understand.

And, a while ago, when I stated I was in Italy, Early  70’s as a ’Tourist’.
And said I did Not go to, Sicily, because, local Italians said, ‘If You Go, you will Never Come Back”
And Meeps, told me, “He went, and it is  Perfectly All Right”.
Not considering the, ‘Rest Of the Story’, (aka  Paul Harvey)
A  American,  (Identified by looks, dress, and lack of the Italian Language)
vs, a,  Italian, fluent in the Language,
  ((Identified by looks, dress, and fluent in the Language)
 IN  the  Early 70’s  !!!!!!!

Does this help you to understand and clarify the insanity?
Think I understand.

The, Refugees, (Which  many are, True  Refugees)
Yet  MANY, are,  ’Trojan Horse’, and NOW, it  IS,
  Proven in Europe and  America. it it  SO.

Does this help you to understand and clarify the insanity?

I Think I understand.

The,  (as to  Refugees),   “Not in MY  Back Yard, But  YOURS”
Does this help you to understand and clarify the insanity?
I Think I understand.

The Reason, ‘we’  (Americans, have to give up  freedom, for safety)
Does this help you to understand and clarify the insanity?
I Think I understand.

It all comes down to, “History’.
A  County, which HUNG, (Red handed, caught),  Cattle/Horse thief’s,   NOW.
vs
a  County, which, dillydallied, and let the, ’Thieves’,
Sit in a  jail, tell they were broke out of it, by their, ‘buddies’.
Which County, would you,  STEAL,  Cows/Horses  from?
Does this help you to understand and clarify the insanity?
I Think I understand.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #21 - 12/18/16 at 19:19:27
 
e statement:
“ Culturally and politically speaking, Syria is much closer to Israel than one might think


How is it POSSIBLE to think I was talking about history of centuries ago?
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Reply #22 - 12/19/16 at 06:58:01
 
If you have any questions as to what drives our foreign policy, look who has been chosen to be our next Secretary of State.
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Reply #23 - 12/19/16 at 14:43:50
 
Just another bomb throwing wingnut

The DECISION to invade six or seven countries was made public by Wesley Clarke. The DECISION was MADE in September of 2001.
Now, you can expound with your great wisdom and insight as to just exactly WHO is driving our foreign policy.
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Reply #24 - 12/19/16 at 16:56:31
 
mpescatori wrote on 12/17/16 at 11:10:17:
" ... Culturally and politically speaking, Syria is much closer to Israel than one might think. ... (actually, he was entitled to do so much more than Gen. Austin was entitled to invade Texas, but tghat's another story) ..."  


" ...Culturally and politically speaking, Syria is much closer to Israel than one might think.   ..."

I would really like to know, 'why',  you think on this one,  is so !


" ... (actually, he was entitled to do so much more than Gen. Austin was entitled to invade Texas, but tghat’s another story)..."


I would really like to know,  what your opinion is, on this one?

Then if you have time,
perhaps, your  opinion, on,  Mussolini ?

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