because corporate America, as a capitalistic goal to reduce cost, is destroying the middle class. their interests are in reducing cost alone, and the middle class, made up of managers, factory workers, truck drivers, etc..... are taking precious salary dollars from corporate America, and Wall Street rewards corporate America every time they reduce costs with easy money. Capitalism seeks to be the most efficient, lowest cost common denominator. It doesn't care that it's cannibalizing it's customers to do so, since the easy Wall Street money quickly replaces customers as a concern. Corporate America supports globalism, supports low wages, supports cheating on regulations, etc.... Corporate America is not moral, it is amoral. Capitalism is not innately moral, there are no innate check and balances on it's greed, maybe, the only check and balance could be maybe the supply and demand of the Labor Market, but idk, seems much weaker to me. Middle Class America is in the way.

I mean, unless you actually believe that corporations want to share the wealth with their employees...  but that goes against the profit motive

raydawg wrote on 11/18/16 at 16:33:24:



that's funny.  Trump is going to make this all much worse. he's going to give in to corporate America, because HE IS ONE OF THEM. He suckered the middle class that supported him, so far he has shown NO SIGNS of actually wanting to change anything, he's selecting super right wing ideologues to positions of power.  His tariffs will hurt US all the most, those manufacturing jobs aren't coming back.


Edit:  forgot, yeah, that was a broad brush, but that's why I don't like blanket tax cuts.

LostArtist wrote on 11/18/16 at 16:48:50:


Ok, I'll put you down as a naysayer. You are on the record now. Me, I have no idea, but I hope the energy that put him there holds him to producing results, if not, they dump trump.....
And keep looking for solutions instead of backing the party regardless, which has gotten us here.

mean, unless you actually believe that corporations want to share the wealth with their employees...  but that goes against the profit motive

A small grasp...
Study Henry Ford. Paid employees so they could afford what they built.
Turnover costs, pay better, save money,
Yeah, some creepy people own businesses.
Government has created an environment that makes employers HAVE to be cheap.

and this myth that employers don't have a choice but to be cheap, that's another side effect of the free market and competition you libertarians always brag about as the ultimate fix for everything


Free market, not crony capitalism, has not been bested.
You have an example?

And you have never, not in your life, SEEN actual free market capitalism on any large scale.
You despise Trump. It's in your words. Yet, Hillary has not been a provider of jobs. She's a warmongering thief, but you prefer her. And what WOULD Trump be, if he was free from the criminals who demand bribes, and the mob who demands certain people be employed?
America is better off because of trump, worse off because of Hillary.

You're BASICALLY a lefty. Understand the word.

LostArtist wrote on 11/21/16 at 13:19:25:


I think you answered it....

Trump admitted it, Hillary and others, don't.

His electing was not because he is so wonderful, no, it's because people are sick of career politicians.
He will be dumped in a New York  minute if he screws up, and it the left tries to screw it up, they will pay for it again in 2 years....

This was started with Ross Perot, just has taken a spell to go against the 2  
Party system

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/21/16 at 14:50:46:


I doan think youis allowed to tell someone here to go pound his pud, Bot will surely scold you.....
Well, unless you admit to some kinky sexual gendering anywayz, then it be cool