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justin_o_guy2
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Is it possible to feel Sorry for all but One?
10/26/16 at 21:20:20
 
The average premium increase masks wide variation among the states. In Arizona, the benchmark plan's average premium will increase 116% in 2017. Arizona had the lowest rates of any state this year, said Kathryn Martin, an acting assistant secretary at the U.S.

But, NOBODY predicted such...
What Did become of that
You can keep your doctor.
Keep your plan.
AND, save$2,500.00/YEAR!!!
????????????

I wonder how many who supported this pineapple suppository can admit the pain they inflicted on their fellow citizens.
Too bad the pain and loss can't be reserved just for them.
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Reply #1 - 10/26/16 at 22:26:20
 
Oh dear!... this halfassed, for-profit, mandated, fix isn't working?...
Jeepers, who'da thunk'd?...
We better fix it...

Maybe with a national health like every other civilized nation in the world has had for nearly 50 years...
I wonder why Hillary or Obama didn't think of this in the first place?...

Oh, right...... They did.... Huh
Oh right,... we did...  Medicare... for everyone...
...or should we go back to paying even more than Obamacare, to HMO's that want nothing more than to deny you coverage if your health hurts their bottom line?...
(rates were rising even faster before Obamacare)...

HMO's are great for healthy people...
....and healthy people are great for HMO's...
Just don't get sick...


Seriously,... how many people do you know, that were denied coverage,from HMO's?...
Of those who have had serious, or chronic, illness... it is most...
This is unimaginable in most of the civilized world...
Estonia,... is ahead of us...
Can you find them on a map?..
..but, they have better healthcare..

We don't need to make America great again... we need to catch up...
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Reply #2 - 10/26/16 at 23:45:43
 
Like schools, everything was dandy before someone
Announced that
We have PROBLEMS.
Before we Had HMOs, a single guy could have a BCBS card for about $35.00/month. I walked into offices all over Texas . No
Ohh, shux, you're out of network.
Just
How can we help you?

The economy
The schools
The medical system

All sabotaged.

Heads will roll if they can't steal it for her.
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Reply #3 - 10/27/16 at 03:06:38
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/26/16 at 22:26:20:
Oh dear!... this halfassed, for-profit, mandated, fix isn't working?...
Jeepers, who'da thunk'd?...
We better fix it...

Maybe with a national health like every other civilized nation in the world has had for nearly 50 years...
I wonder why Hillary or Obama didn't think of this in the first place?...

Oh, right...... They did.... Huh
Oh right,... we did...  Medicare... for everyone...
...or should we go back to paying even more than Obamacare, to HMO's that want nothing more than to deny you coverage if your health hurts their bottom line?...
(rates were rising even faster before Obamacare)...

HMO's are great for healthy people...
....and healthy people are great for HMO's...
Just don't get sick...


Seriously,... how many people do you know, that were denied coverage,from HMO's?...
Of those who have had serious, or chronic, illness... it is most...
This is unimaginable in most of the civilized world...
Estonia,... is ahead of us...
Can you find them on a map?..
..but, they have better healthcare..

We don't need to make America great again... we need to catch up...


Why lie?

Why not tell the folks the truth right out of the bag?
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Re: Is it possible to feel Sorry for all but One?
Reply #4 - 10/27/16 at 17:25:31
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/26/16 at 22:26:20:
" ... Maybe with a national health like every other civilized nation in the world has ...


Would that be one, where people  WAIT,  for 6  MONTHS,
Then   DIE,   in three.
Because then can  NOT   Get a  Appointment ????

Because all the People, that need a  'Aspirin' for a  Headache, are in front of them ?

Is  That the One, you think is  Best  ????


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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #5 - 10/27/16 at 22:01:04
 
It was working great, till they Fixed it.
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Reply #6 - 10/28/16 at 18:26:13
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/27/16 at 22:01:04:
It was working great, till they Fixed it.



you really believe that?
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Reply #7 - 10/28/16 at 18:49:40
 
LostArtist wrote on 10/28/16 at 18:26:13:
you really believe that?


OK, what part of: "...  the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, ... "  
do you not agree with ?
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #8 - 10/29/16 at 02:40:24
 
LostArtist wrote on 10/28/16 at 18:26:13:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/27/16 at 22:01:04:
It was working great, till they Fixed it.



you really believe that?



Pre HMO, insurance was affordable and deductibles were low.

And how they choose to read the interstate commerce clause is stupid. I agree Spring
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Reply #9 - 10/29/16 at 05:36:02
 
It sounds really great to just say "why can't we catch up to the rest of the world and have a national healthcare, single payer system"....  

but as it's been pointed out by many over and over, we are not like the rest of the world. There is no nation with the complexities of the USA. I was in Miami all week at our company's national meeting. We had people from all over the world. As someone pointed out, there were more people within 50 miles of Miami than in the western providences of Canada combined. California alone has had more people than the entire nation of Canada since 2009. You can fit France inside of Texas. With a smaller % of the world's population, we are directly involved in 25% of the economics of the world and who knows how much indirectly; 75%?

Just because England can have "Free" healthcare, doesn't mean the US can.

And site Medicare all you want, but almost everyone on Medicare pays for Medicare supplement insurance. Why? Because the coverage is not comprehensive.

Obama had a mandate to do something about healthcare 8 years ago, but instead of gradual changes that would have actually accomplished something, he drove the wedge between conservatives and liberals even further by forcing a policy down the nation's throat (at midnight if you recall) that is doing nothing but making things worse.

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Reply #10 - 10/29/16 at 06:06:59
 
LostArtist wrote on 10/28/16 at 18:26:13:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/27/16 at 22:01:04:
It was working great, till they Fixed it.



you really believe that?


Why lie.....
Answer that one pal?

Why not the truth from the get go?

C'mon, you is so smart, why lie?

Look at Clinton now, see how lies impact people?

WHY tiger, why?
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Reply #11 - 10/29/16 at 07:19:55
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/29/16 at 05:36:02:
Just because England can have "Free" healthcare, doesn't mean the US can.

How does size or population make any difference?...
More people equals more money...
Take the English system and times it by four...
Per capita is the same...

Dumb argument...
-"We can't have roads because our country is too big"... Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - 10/29/16 at 07:27:44
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/29/16 at 07:19:55:
WebsterMark wrote on 10/29/16 at 05:36:02:
Just because England can have "Free" healthcare, doesn't mean the US can.

How does size or population make any difference?...
More people equals more money...
Take the English system and times it by four...
Per capita is the same...

Dumb argument...
-"We can't have roads because our country is too big"... Roll Eyes


Why lie?

Why lie about the truth of cost, etc?

Why?
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Reply #13 - 10/29/16 at 10:07:04
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/29/16 at 07:19:55:
WebsterMark wrote on 10/29/16 at 05:36:02:
Just because England can have "Free" healthcare, doesn't mean the US can.

How does size or population make any difference?...
More people equals more money...
Take the English system and times it by four...
Per capita is the same...

Dumb argument...
-"We can't have roads because our country is too big"... Roll Eyes


Dumber argument...
What works on one place, will work in all, so just go ahead and implement it. Don't worry, it will be fine.

Why did/is obamacare failing so badly?
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Reply #14 - 10/29/16 at 10:16:36
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/29/16 at 07:19:55:
WebsterMark wrote on 10/29/16 at 05:36:02:
Just because England can have "Free" healthcare, doesn't mean the US can.

How does size or population make any difference?...
More people equals more money...
Take the English system and times it by four...
Per capita is the same...

Dumb argument...
-"We can't have roads because our country is too big"... Roll Eyes

.............................................................

The UK has a larger population than Canada.
Canada is larger than the US.

"Just because England can have "Free" healthcare, doesn't mean the US can. "

Why?

Mark, try statistics (or even logistics) when you feel it's relevant .....
but ask yourself why the rest of the civilized world has had a Health Service for the last half a century, as Bot said.

Oh, for MnS, I received 'free' hospital care in an old 'Eastern-bloc' country within minutes, not months, and have had ongoing 'free' treatment back home (and much more still to come).

Neither of those countries have the 'Euro' currency.
I didn't have or need health insurance.

Can't the most powerful country in the world be able to heal it's sick because of it's landmass, Mark?

In my opinion, one measure of a country's 'greatness' is how it treats it's sick and elderly. I'm sure the Japanese said something like that, at least.
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