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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5274 In Transit	Re: Offended by everything, tolerant of nothing, Reply #75 - 09/02/16 at 06:49:56 Perhaps we could use honesty. Best regards,
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Reply #76 - 09/02/16 at 15:21:18

Serowbot wrote on 09/02/16 at 06:33:41:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/02/16 at 05:56:25:

Your intellectual dishonesty is tiresome.

This phrase is tiresome...
You have repeated it often enough in the past few months that it has lost all meaning and effect.
Retire it.

Nope..
It's meaningful to those who understand it.
And it's subtly different from honest or dishonest.
It's about, ohh, well, look it up.
Naaah, nobody will, so, I'll help

Dishonesty | Definition of Dishonesty by Merriam-Webster
Merriam-Webster › dictionary › dishonesty
lack of honesty : the quality of being untruthful or deceitful. Source: Merriam- Webster's Learner's Dictionary. Examples: ...

AAAAAND here's an opportunity...

Let's see which pathetic one goes for it.

Intellectual Dishonesty
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Intellectual dishonesty is a failure to apply standards of rational evaluation that one is aware of, usually in a self-serving fashion. If one judges others more critically than oneself, that is intellectually dishonest.

See how that applies?
Intentionally failing to see the obvious, because it is destructive to the agenda.

It's TIRESOME.
Wag that Muppet finger at the one who chooses to pretend that my point is not made clearly and is irrefutable.

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Reply #77 - 09/02/16 at 22:54:46

I think that maybe Jesus knew the events of the evening yet to unfold.

He knew that he was going to be arrested.

He knew that his disciples wanted to protect him, and they'd be tempted to use force.

He told them to sell some stuff to buy a couple of swords.

Soldiers appeared, a scuffle broke out.

After the ear was cut off, the unarmed Jesus healed the guy to demonstrate the futility of arms and the power of faith.

He told them to go (with nothing) out into the world and spread his message, having left them with a wealth of examples by his actions.

PS. Swords into plowshares, anyone?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Offended by everything, tolerant of nothing, Reply #78 - 09/03/16 at 01:05:20 The time and effort to unscrew that screwed upmess isn't something I care to expend.
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10090 Minn Gender:	Re: Offended by everything, tolerant of nothing, Reply #79 - 09/03/16 at 18:14:34 HUGE Difference between a, 'Goal' and 'Reality". A 'Goal", get to a point, where their is NO, violence. A, 'Reality', we are Not Even Close to that. This is NOT, 'Star-Trek' . !!!!!!!! Oh Wait, didn't the Enterprise, have means of , 'DEFENDING', themselves ?
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10090 Minn Gender:	Re: Offended by everything, tolerant of nothing, Reply #80 - 09/03/16 at 18:21:39 Oh Yea, that's right, (The Re-Wright, The, 'new'. version, the, 'Fairy Dust Sprinklers', version) The Enterprise, just sat their, and let the Klingon's, blow them to the stars.
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Reply #81 - 09/04/16 at 05:01:13

Star Trek, is science-fiction.

The clue is in the name; I know you like your fiction.

"Oh Wait, didn't the Enterprise, have means of , 'DEFENDING', themselves ?"

Yep, "shields up", that is defence.

The 'guns' that the crew carried? Well, "Set phasers to stun" was an option that doesn't really exist with fire-arms.

But nice example, never the less.

I actually prefer Star Wars to Star Trek (I haven't much time for sci-fi, but I read the book Star Wars).

Here's an interesting concept:

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10090 Minn Gender:	Re: Offended by everything, tolerant of nothing, Reply #82 - 09/04/16 at 06:47:15 Well, clear that, For a special, person, should have said, *“Dr. Who, and the Daleks”.*
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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Offended by everything, tolerant of nothing, Reply #83 - 09/04/16 at 07:07:49 Reply in a normal sentence, then you'll get a reply. Who is the special person who should have said "Dr Who" ..... ? Please 'Re-Wright' to make your point clear to those who wish to understand. Me? I'm just waiting for these 'many, many women' to appear on the forum.
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Reply #84 - 09/04/16 at 07:44:30

HovisPresley wrote on 09/02/16 at 22:54:46:

I think that maybe Jesus knew the events of the evening yet to unfold.

He knew that he was going to be arrested.

He knew that his disciples wanted to protect him, and they'd be tempted to use force.

He told them to sell some stuff to buy a couple of swords.

Soldiers appeared, a scuffle broke out.

After the ear was cut off, the unarmed Jesus healed the guy to demonstrate the futility of arms and the power of faith.

He told them to go (with nothing) out into the world and spread his message, having left them with a wealth of examples by his actions.

PS. Swords into plowshares, anyone?

As I posted, and no one replied, you offer a great example of what my post was about.
Yes, we could say Jesus knew he was to be the Lamb.
Did he know all the details, I offer not.
He grieved him so much he sweat blood, and prayed to his farther to consider changing these plans.....
He would not have been tempted either, while fasting, by satan.
Point too, he would have told Peter to store his weapon that night an avoid the whole episode.

All of this above, witnesses a man of weak flesh, through faith, and love, heals many.
The power was not his, but his fathers.
And these things that happened were just as much to test him, as it was to bear witness to his disciples, and to fulfill prophecy.

To use a sword, in this case, as an absolute prophetic emblem, with a sole purpose, well, let me offer the possibility that it was a double edge model Grin

( Hebrews 4:12)

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”

Are you guys discerners, too?

Who holds themselves, in such high esteem?
Then why do you not understand contempt?
Does it not dwell in your own heart?

You lie the loudest, when you lie to, yourself........

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Reply #85 - 09/04/16 at 08:16:45

To use a sword, in this case, as an absolute prophetic emblem,

He sliced the guy's ear,,I don't See how it relates TO a prophecy.

It Did give Jesus an opportunity to demonstrate love, prove that he Is the Christ, and an opportunity to rebuke the soldiers who could easily have arrested him many times, who now come in a group, armed as if they were heading into battle.

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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Offended by everything, tolerant of nothing, Reply #86 - 09/04/16 at 08:22:41 That quote was written years AFTER the events in Gethsemane. But I agree with your post up until the 'Hebrews' quote.
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Reply #87 - 09/04/16 at 13:23:32

HovisPresley wrote on 09/04/16 at 08:22:41:

That quote was written years AFTER the events in Gethsemane.

But I agree with your post up until the 'Hebrews' quote.

Ok, but many a time I have drawn only to inflict myself of what I intended on another.....

And Yes, Paul ( who I believe wrote Hebrews ) tells his own story, according to his own walk, I just used the sword as a reference of a tool, not as a declaration of instructions ( to use ).
As readily seen from the moment Jesus was no longer flesh, man has use scripture to judge and manipulate to his own WILL

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Reply #88 - 09/04/16 at 15:29:06

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/04/16 at 08:16:45:

To use a sword, in this case, as an absolute prophetic emblem,

He sliced the guy's ear,,I don't See how it relates TO a prophecy.

It Did give Jesus an opportunity to demonstrate love, prove that he Is the Christ, and an opportunity to rebuke the soldiers who could easily have arrested him many times, who now come in a group, armed as if they were heading into battle.

I'm pretty sure the Bible is not what it was meant to be. Man distorts everything and the Bible has been handled too many times by too many people to Not have been tinkered with..

Just my zeropinion.

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Reply #89 - 09/04/16 at 16:56:50

"I'm pretty sure the Bible is not what it was meant to be. Man distorts everything and the Bible has been handled too many times by too many people to Not have been tinkered with..

Just my zeropinion."

+1 JoG
It has been used as a political tool for almost 2000 years also.
When it was translated into English years ago it was considered a real threat by the 'Church' because it meant that the 'lay' people could have access to it.
At least the literate, rather than the Latin speaking puppet-masters.

I'm intrigued as to why, around the world, most practicing Jews have a basic grasp of Hebrew, most practicing Muslims have a grasp of Arabic, but seemingly most Christians, despite following an Iron-Age Middle-Eastern political agitator, don't regard the multiple translations over millennia, as being potentially inaccurate.

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