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09/07/16 at 04:07:21
 
http://journal-neo.org/2016/09/06/darning-emails-against-monsanto-bayer/


Perhaps most astonishing was the fact that the Seralini study was the first long-term study of the effects of a GMO diet in the world after almost two decades of widespread proliferation of GMO crops. No one else until then had made tests over the entire two year life span of rats—no government, no university, no food end-user like Nestle, Unilever, Kellogg or Kraft Foods or any such mega food concerns using GMO in their products. All previous studies were merely a brief three months or less, far too short a time to determine the possible effects of a GMO diet, as Seralini’s study dramatically confirmed.

Seralini’s group based their experiment on the same protocol as the original Monsanto study but, critically, testing more parameters more frequently. And the rats were studied for much longer—their full two year average life-time instead of just 90 days in the Monsanto study. The long time span proved critical. The first tumors only appeared after 4 to7 months into the study. In industry’s earlier 90-day study on the same GMO maize, Monsanto NK603, signs of toxicity were seen but were dismissed as “not biologically meaningful” by industry and EFSA alike. As Seralini’s study confirmed, they were indeed very biologically meaningful.

The Seralini study concluded, “In females, all treated groups died 2–3 times more than controls, and more rapidly. This difference was visible in 3 male groups fed GMOs. All results were hormone and sex dependent, and the pathological profiles were comparable. Females developed large mammary tumors almost always more often than and before controls; the pituitary was the second most disabled organ; the sex hormonal balance was modified by GMO and Roundup treatments. In treated males, liver congestions and necrosis were 2.5–5.5 times higher. This pathology was confirmed by optic and transmission electron microscopy. Marked and severe kidney nephropathies were also generally 1.3–2.3 greater. Males presented 4 times more large palpable tumors than controls…”

Four times means four hundred percent more large tumors in GMO fed rats than in normally fed ones of the control group. Moreover, the Seralini study reported, “By the beginning of the 24th month, 50–80% of female animals had developed tumors in all treated groups, with up to 3 tumors per animal, whereas only 30% of controls [non-GMO-fed—w.e.] were affected. The Roundup treatment groups showed the greatest rates of tumor incidence with 80% of animals affected with up to 3 tumors for one female, in each group.”

Seralini’s 2012 study also independently confirmed carcinogenic effects of Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide paired with the GMO corn. Roundup is a glyphosate-based weed-killer, the world’s most widely-used one that has just been recertified for 18 months by the EU Commission, despite unprecedented calls for its ban.

The Seralini study stated, “We observed a strikingly marked induction of mammary tumors by R (Roundup) alone, a major formulated pesticide, even at the very lowest dose administered. R has been shown to disrupt aromatase which synthesizes estrogens (Richard et al., 2005), but to also interfere with estrogen and androgen receptors in cells (Gasnier et al., 2009). In addition, R appears to be a sex endocrine disruptor in vivo, also in males (Romano et al., 2010). Sex steroids are also modified in treated rats. These hormone-dependent phenomena are confirmed by enhanced pituitary dysfunction in treated females.”

Mammary tumors that developed in rats fed GMO corn and/or low levels of Roundup. From the Seralini paper “Long term toxicity of a Roundup herbicide and a Roundup-tolerant genetically modified maize,” published in Food and Chemical Toxicology.

Within hours of the publication of the Seralini study in the Food and Chemical Toxicology journal, a coordinated global media campaign to discredit the conclusions was launched. No facts were presented, merely allegations that the study was “unscientific.”

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Reply #1 - 09/07/16 at 04:36:08
 
Seralini’s group based their experiment on the same protocol as the original Monsanto study.....


BS flag has been thrown. 15 yard penalty for intention misleading statement.
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Reply #2 - 09/07/16 at 04:54:41
 
I know, and the pictures of the hair between the teeth were fake, right?
Can't we just accept that the crap really IS POISON?

You're gonna need to show what you base your criticism on..
How, exactly, was the test run that invalidates the results?
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Reply #3 - 09/07/16 at 05:20:44
 
I hesitate to get into this because the last go-around with you over the "Fox sued for the right to lie" thing, I pointed out why that was 100% wrong but you ignored it. However, I'm not traveling this week so I've got some time. I'll have to read up on it, I just remember reading stuff a while ago that the methods they used were questioned. There are some who hate Monsanto with a burning passion so much so that a monkey could post a "fact" which would be grabbed, turned into a slogan and carried like a battle flag forward into the front lines.

As I've mentioned, I'm in the food business, I've seen the worst of the worst and the best of the best. I don't play favorites, if companies cut the corners, I'd call them out. I don't own Monsanto stock or anything. I also know there's an entire sub-culture of people who have a blind spot and who'll believe anything if it reinforces their anti-Monsanto or anti-GMO stance.
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Reply #4 - 09/07/16 at 05:45:17
 
to continue, you should know I'm someone who just doesn't buy the 'official' story with no questions asked. I firmly believe the global warming issue is overblown and hyped up by scientist and the entire industry that's become climate change. Literally, millions of jobs depend upon perpetuating the idea that disaster is waiting for us just behind the corner, but funny thing is, when we get to that corner, we're told it's the next corner, then the next..... I'm also told that climate change is affecting me right now, but I don't see it. Sorry, not buying that bull$hit. Yea, sure we impact the climate and yea, we probably are responsible for increasing the temp a tiny fraction of a degree, but I was on the shores of Lake Ontario a couple weeks ago. 15,000 years ago if I stood in that same spot, I'd have been under couple hundred feet of ice and there was no Lake Ontario. So is the global warming? Yep, sure is.

I tend to think the GMO hype is similar to the climate change hype. Whatever impact it has, if any, is tiny when compared to the hype.


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Reply #5 - 09/07/16 at 08:27:08
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/07/16 at 04:54:41:
I know, and the pictures of the hair between the teeth were fake, right?

Show me... Undecided

I've used Canola oil for a decade and don't have hairy teeth...
I've never seen or heard of hairy teeth... Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - 09/07/16 at 08:31:37
 
Doesn't EU already ban GMO?

Then why aren't their breast cancer rates substantially better?
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The areas with the lowest incident rates also happen to be some of the poorest areas in the world. It's far more likely many cases go completely undetected or, because of their shorter lifespans, they have fewer opportunities to be diagnosed.
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Reply #8 - 09/07/16 at 20:20:42
 
I'd say we have a lot more in life to worry about than GMO food. People have been getting sick and dying long before that stuff came about.

Maybe one day I'll get back in shape and start living healthier. Undecided
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Reply #9 - 09/07/16 at 20:21:55
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/07/16 at 10:34:34:
The areas with the lowest incident rates also happen to be some of the poorest areas in the world. It's far more likely many cases go completely undetected or, because of their shorter lifespans, they have fewer opportunities to be diagnosed.


Or maybe it has some to do with a rich western diet? Calorie intake? Huh

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Reply #10 - 09/08/16 at 04:15:03
 
Could be. Clear links between abortion and breast cancer too.
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Reply #11 - 09/08/16 at 08:36:25
 
The worst part of your diet is the food that has that has been sold to the public as healthy,ie.Orange juice,milk, yogurt ,diet soda,whole wheat bread. These all have enough sugar/fruitose/additives to hurt you or make you fat.OJ,yogurt and whole wheat bread have more sugar than a Mars bar! Your body doesn't make enough insulin to handle it so the sugers are sent to your fat cells. Powdered creamer in your coffee?A spoonfull of Greece helps it go down?Need a sweetener stevia!(everything else is poison) Oh well just a rant! but you are what you eat!
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WebsterMark wrote on 09/08/16 at 04:15:03:
Could be. Clear links between abortion and breast cancer too.

I flag your flag and raise ... Roll Eyes

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/breastcancer/moreinformation/is-abortion-linked-...
"In 2003, the US National Cancer Institute (NCI) held a workshop of more than 100 of the world’s leading experts who study pregnancy and breast cancer risk. The experts reviewed human and animal studies that looked at the link between pregnancy and breast cancer risk, including studies of induced and spontaneous abortions. Some of their findings were:

   Breast cancer risk is increased for a short time after a full-term pregnancy (that is, a pregnancy that results in the birth of a living child).
   Induced abortion is not linked to an increase in breast cancer risk.
   Spontaneous abortion is not linked to an increase in breast cancer risk.

The level of scientific evidence for these findings was considered to be “well established” (the highest level).
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Reply #13 - 09/08/16 at 09:45:41
 
(Not to diss the usefulness of various techniques like exercise, intermittent fasting, or healthier foods...)

Perhaps the simplest, best, and most basic solution is to be happier eating LESS. Period.

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/37039/title/Eat-Less-an...

Less is more... Less GMO's, Less caloric intake, less junk food. A clear winner for the most part.

Now, if only it was easy to eat less.... Undecided



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cheapnewb24 wrote on 09/08/16 at 09:45:41:
(Not to diss the usefulness of various techniques like exercise, intermittent fasting, or healthier foods...)

Perhaps the simplest, best, and most basic solution is to be happier eating LESS. Period.

Less is more... Less GMO's, Less caloric intake, less junk food. A clear winner for the most part.

Now, if only it was easy to eat less.... Undecided





I'm reading this while eating a Taco Bell $5.00 lunch box which is a crapload of food.....
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