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Are you SURE, this is what you want ?
08/26/16 at 19:27:46

Are you SURE, this is what you want ?

Again, posted this before.
But for those who do NOT, Realize, where we are headed.
Here is a, ’TODAY’, assessment from a person in Brazil.
TODAY, REAL TIME !
And this STARTED in only 2003.

We have had 8 Years of ‘King Bama’, you REALLY want 4 More, from the, ‘Wanna Be QWEEN” ?

“ Thanks for the offer but really can't get them due to the law. I live in brazil. In fact like in every socialist place YOU CAN do certain things, like having a 45 Colt, 454 Casull or even a 500 S&W. You just need to be filthy rich and bave specific friends, because the paperwork is as expensive as an entry level motorcycle for example, after it's done you must request a permit to purchase the gun (in such caliber or any of those considered restricted), it will be analysed and the officer may have woken with a foul mood and stamp NO... then you have to wait and try again. Among other stuff. I believe it's easier to deal with BATF so you can figure how things go here.

A piece of brass in the pocket have put a bunch of guys behind the bars here... yes, just the brass, no load no gun. That's the law. ...

Things are so stupid here, if I had say a 357 (with Army permit) and shot it in self defense, I'd lose said license and would be sued.. So I'd need a 38/380 for self defense and a 357/45/500/308 to hunt (boars only) and to show my friends at the gun club…

The older better guys are already dead or gave up the profession after the 2003 and hunted them like witches…"

IS This is what YOU WANT !!!!!!!

(Well I know Bot, & Lost, wants it. And who cares about a Troll, from another country, who is a, ’subject’, NOT, a ‘Citizen’, where their is NO 1st or 2nd Amendment.)

But the Rest of you ?????????

Let’s see, when the, Ultra-Liberal’ people say:
(When they get their, Ultra- Liberal Leader)
“Oh, I see, the STATS SAY, that this XYZ Motorcycle, is involved in a Lot Of Accidents, so, ‘we’, decided to BAN, the making/importing of that Motorcycle, to ‘Protect all of you’, it is for YOUR good”.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Are you SURE, this is what you want ? Reply #1 - 08/26/16 at 19:33:58 Drugs are illegal everywhere. And Available, everywhere. So, if the goal is to worship government and be a good submissive gutless wonder, support the freedom killing witch.
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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Are you SURE, this is what you want ? Reply #2 - 08/26/16 at 19:54:39 Tom, I am a citizen, you are wrong https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen (I have an Irish passport upstairs somewhere, also.)
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Reply #3 - 08/27/16 at 15:54:24

No, it's not....

I just blew my knee out again today. It reminded me that.. since that wreck... I am to some degree crippled. Now don't go on the "Cheapy's making another sad story" trip. Roll Eyes

Basically, it means that if I try to run from an attacker, there is a very high likelyhood that my knee will fail, and I will be momentarily crippled, giving an attacker an easy opportunity to beat the sh!t out of me. If I can't run, then what else? Fists? I'm not a fighter and I'm out of shape.

Alot of you here are old men and you know what kind of situation I'm talking about.

What do we do now? Carry weapons? What weapons!?!? If most effective weapons are banned, you are basically given the option of

A. Carry them anyway and risk punishment
B. Go on living without them, hoping that nothing will happen to you.

Now option B is rather realistic since many people don't carry weapons anyway. But that's their choice, not the government's. Basically, these people have little or no right to defend themselves, do they?

Government officials would look at me even worse because I'm young, but in these sort of situations, not even the elderly can defend themselves. If you made an exception for them, you'd have to then worry about the young people who can't fight. What are you going to give them? How are you going to make all those decisions? Who can and can't have a weapon? Even in our country, a lot of people convicted of even relatively minor crimes can sometimes have difficulty acquiring or owning weapons. So these people shouldn't have the right to defend themselves? So they broke the law, and they are now allowed to be beaten to death? How dangerous does someone really need to be before you should be taking away his weapons? I can understand how some people probably shouldn't carry a gun, but if you apply that universally, who are we to make those judgments? Before you know it, you'll be having your weapons seized for even the silliest comments taken wrongly because someone will get nervous.

People worry so much about guns. If we can't have those, why not give us steel knuckles and other "illegal" weapons? Give us something for defense.

So, Serowbot... Can you solve this problem? Do liberals assume that people can always run away? Do they assume there's a cop at every corner? Do they assume everyone can fight? Do they assume that you can always say "sorry" and make the attacker not want to hurt you?

Tell me what the social liberal solution to this is... 'cause, seems to me that taking away weapons largely makes people defenseless against their will.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28387 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Are you SURE, this is what you want ? Reply #4 - 08/27/16 at 16:28:30 You'd be safer in England... That's a fact that's hard to get around...
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Re: Are you SURE, this is what you want ?
Reply #5 - 08/27/16 at 17:23:49

MnSpring wrote on 08/26/16 at 19:27:46:

Are you SURE, this is what you want ?

Again, posted this before.
But for those who do NOT, Realize, where we are headed.
Here is a, ’TODAY’, assessment from a person in Brazil.
TODAY, REAL TIME !
And this STARTED in only 2003.

We have had 8 Years of ‘King Bama’, you REALLY want 4 More, from the, ‘Wanna Be QWEEN” ?

“ Thanks for the offer but really can't get them due to the law. I live in brazil. In fact like in every socialist place YOU CAN do certain things, like having a 45 Colt, 454 Casull or even a 500 S&W. You just need to be filthy rich and bave specific friends, because the paperwork is as expensive as an entry level motorcycle for example, after it's done you must request a permit to purchase the gun (in such caliber or any of those considered restricted), it will be analysed and the officer may have woken with a foul mood and stamp NO... then you have to wait and try again. Among other stuff. I believe it's easier to deal with BATF so you can figure how things go here.

A piece of brass in the pocket have put a bunch of guys behind the bars here... yes, just the brass, no load no gun. That's the law. ...

Things are so stupid here, if I had say a 357 (with Army permit) and shot it in self defense, I'd lose said license and would be sued.. So I'd need a 38/380 for self defense and a 357/45/500/308 to hunt (boars only) and to show my friends at the gun club…

The older better guys are already dead or gave up the profession after the 2003 and hunted them like witches…"

IS This is what YOU WANT !!!!!!!

(Well I know Bot, & Lost, wants it. And who cares about a Troll, from another country, who is a, ’subject’, NOT, a ‘Citizen’, where their is NO 1st or 2nd Amendment.)

But the Rest of you ?????????

Let’s see, when the, Ultra-Liberal’ people say:
(When they get their, Ultra- Liberal Leader)
“Oh, I see, the STATS SAY, that this XYZ Motorcycle, is involved in a Lot Of Accidents, so, ‘we’, decided to BAN, the making/importing of that Motorcycle, to ‘Protect all of you’, it is for YOUR good”.

First, I'm a pro second amendment, but thanks for lumping me in with your version of what all liberals must be, since you obviously can't even imagine holding positions that are INDIVIDUAL, and as I've said before, BUT NO ONE FRACKING LISTENS HERE, YOU ALL JUST LUMP ME IN WITH EVERY CRAZY TREE HUGGING ULTRA LIBERAL, I'm independent. but thanks for throwing me in with everyone else,

I'll just assume from now on that you are part of the Alt Right Conspiracy White Supremacy conservatives. So now I've established that you are a crazy racist conspiracy conservative fear monger. So from now on, that's how I'll view you, you will no longer be allowed to have individual thoughts or express anything that doesn't agree with Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh and therefor your voice is useless since Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh already speak for you, you can just shut up now forever more.

Second, NO ONE IS ASKING FOR THAT! not in any serious presentation. Yes, there are a few ultra left people who want to take 'ur guns. but most liberals would just like some level of reasonable gun control, for example: a simple registration list to hold people personally accountable, oh wait, aren't republicans supposed to be the party of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, huh, guess weapons of death are an exception for them....

but I'm sure your alt right paranoid brain can't comprehend something as complex as a shade of gray, so thank you for allowing criminals to buy guns from their favorite straw purchaser...

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LostArtist

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Reply #6 - 08/27/16 at 17:28:00

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/26/16 at 19:33:58:

Drugs are illegal everywhere.
And
Available, everywhere.
So, if the goal is to worship government and be a good submissive gutless wonder, support the freedom killing witch.

or if the goal is to fully embrace that MIGHT makes RIGHT and allow the Mighty (rich) to continue to enslave us, you have the constitution destroying troll that is Trump.

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Reply #7 - 08/27/16 at 19:06:15

LostArtist wrote on 08/27/16 at 17:23:49:

... a simple registration list to hold people personally accountable, oh wait, aren't republicans supposed to be the party of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, huh, guess weapons of death are an exception for them.... but I'm sure your alt right paranoid brain can't comprehend something as complex as a shade of gray, so thank you for allowing criminals to buy guns from their favorite straw purchaser...

You COMPLETELY MISS the Point !

" ... registration list ..."

WITH OUT THAT, HOW goes a 'Government' KNOW, who has a firearm, and who does NOT !
The 2nd Adm, is NOT, about 'deer hunting', is is ALL About, being able to, STOP, a Dictator/King, Government! And what better way, than to, KNOW, WHO, has a firearm, so you can, 'Take It Away', so their is NO One to oppose them !!!!!! (Perhaps a little, HISTORY, lessen is in order?)

" ...hold people personally accountable..."

Oh Gee, it was a, 'flag', that was responsible. Etc. Etc. Etc. !

" ...paranoid brain..."

Do you have a, 'fire Extinguisher, in your house or shop?
Do you have a Co2 detector?
Do you have, insurance, on your house/car/life ?

" ... allowing criminals to buy guns from their favorite straw purchaser... ..."

Oh Yea, same old tired, DFI rhetoric.
Ever hear of the name, 'Eric Holder, and Obama'.
Where they, TOLD, Law abiding FFL Dealers,
they HAD to, Break the LAW, under THEIR penalty"
Can you say, 'EXTORTION" ?

" ... weapons of death ..."

WHAT. You don't have a clue. 97, perhaps even 99%, of firearms, are used for, punching holes in paper, breaking clay targets, hunting. Do a Little Research. Look at the Facts ! Here's some for you. DOCTORS, cause 9,000 times MORE, DEATHS, than a Firearm.
Now you do the rest.
How many MORE, Deaths are caused by, Drowning? How many more by Poison? How many more by Elect? How may more by falling down steps/ladder/scaffolding? How may more by cars/trucks/MC'S? How many more by Bicycles? Etc, etc etc !
Yet, WHERE is the Outcry, 'We have to Ban ..."

" ... lumping me in with ..."
And: " ... so thank you for allowing criminals to buy guns ... "

Gee, how does it feel ?
Some DFI, who is Mentally Ill, Who, is a 'Terrorist', goes into a, 'Gun Free Zone'. And shoots up people. The the Media, the Government, the Liberal 'Gun Grabbers, ALL SAY, I, (and everyone else that owns a firearm) are AT FAULT.

And lastly, you say " ...I'm a pro second amendment..." No, you are NOT. Because you do NOT, know what it means !

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Reply #8 - 08/27/16 at 19:31:27

Serowbot wrote on 08/27/16 at 16:28:30:

You'd be safer in England... /

The exact same way, if all Cars/Trucks/MC's were banned here.
Much 'Safer' !

"Watch the News, Next week, Bot is going to walk around, and do interviews of people in, Detroit, Chicago, Outside the beltway in Wash DC, NYC, (where the tourists don't go), all places where, "Gun Control', at a high level is Practiced, so he can report on the economic conditions, and the Prosperity of those people".

(Next Week) "Sorry to report, Bot has gone missing, he has not reported in, and we don't know where he is".

(Next week) "A unidentified person, was found...."

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Are you SURE, this is what you want ? Reply #9 - 08/27/16 at 19:37:21 Attaboyyy Spring! Few grasp the concept of the second amendment.
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Reply #10 - 08/27/16 at 20:01:04

LostArtist wrote on 08/27/16 at 17:23:49:

... First, I'm a pro second amendment, ...

Do you know what, ' ...well regulated ...", means?

It is not some, 'today's', 'Fairy Dust Sprinkler' version.
It means, -, You are FIGHTING for your FREEDOM, from, a force that wants to, enslave, you. And it means that, ALL the people from that town/area, are, 'well regulated', which means that they ALL Have the same size, ball and power charge, so if one runs out, they then can get more from their buddy".

Do you understand what a, "...free state..." means. It is to be able to KEEP, your freedom, from those who want to, enslave you"

" ... the right of the people ..." Should require NO explanation.
(Well unless you, WANT, to be enslaved)

"... shall not be infringed ..."
Ah, who, want's to, 'Infringe', Could it be, Carter/Clinton/Obama ??????
And could it be, because they don't want YOU, to oppose them ?

PLUNGER; A word that was around a VERY long time, before their was indoor plumbing. Does NOT mean, that is is, now, different! Than when first written.

The word, 'GAY', did it have a different meaning, just 50 years ago?
So all the 50 + year old references to that word, are, Now Changed ??????

The words: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" Written 240 years ago. STILL STAND.

Despite, what a, Wanna Be Queen, and her minions, say.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Are you SURE, this is what you want ? Reply #11 - 08/27/16 at 20:51:32 Daggum Spring,,, Hard to dispute Shall not be infringed...
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LostArtist

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Reply #12 - 08/27/16 at 21:50:18

MnSpring wrote on 08/27/16 at 19:06:15:

LostArtist wrote on 08/27/16 at 17:23:49:

... a simple registration list to hold people personally accountable, oh wait, aren't republicans supposed to be the party of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, huh, guess weapons of death are an exception for them.... but I'm sure your alt right paranoid brain can't comprehend something as complex as a shade of gray, so thank you for allowing criminals to buy guns from their favorite straw purchaser...

You COMPLETELY MISS the Point !

YOU HAVE NO POINT! YOU'RE POINT IS THAT YOU WANT IT ALL YOUR WAY OR THE ONLY OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS! WHEN THERE'S TONS, TONS, TONS OF ROOM IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO ALTERNATIVES. so what if the government knows you have a gun, don't break the law with it no worries. sell it responsibly and legally, keep your paperwork, no problem. THEY AREN'T EVERY GOING TO COME FOR YOUR GUNS YOU PARANOID PUZBAG

" ... registration list ..."

WITH OUT THAT, HOW goes a 'Government' KNOW, who has a firearm, and who does NOT !
The 2nd Adm, is NOT, about 'deer hunting', is is ALL About, being able to, STOP, a Dictator/King, Government! And what better way, than to, KNOW, WHO, has a firearm, so you can, 'Take It Away', so their is NO One to oppose them !!!!!! (Perhaps a little, HISTORY, lessen is in order?)

" ...hold people personally accountable..."

Oh Gee, it was a, 'flag', that was responsible. Etc. Etc. Etc. !

I don't even know what the hell this response is about. WHERE DID I SAY THE 2ND AMENDMENT WAS ABOUT HUNTING, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE ON HERE AND I GUESS I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, SINCE YOU APPARENTLY GO BLIND WHEN YOU READ IT, (so like this is going to help) THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS FOR MILITIAS TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SINCE MILITIAS ARE MADE UP OF CITIZENS, THAT CAN BE REASONABLY EXTENDED TO INCLUDE ALL OF US

" ...paranoid brain..."

Do you have a, 'fire Extinguisher, in your house or shop?
Do you have a Co2 detector?
Do you have, insurance, on your house/car/life ?

I ALSO HAVE A HAND GUN

" ... allowing criminals to buy guns from their favorite straw purchaser... ..."

Oh Yea, same old tired, DFI rhetoric.
Ever hear of the name, 'Eric Holder, and Obama'.
Where they, TOLD, Law abiding FFL Dealers,
they HAD to, Break the LAW, under THEIR penalty"
Can you say, 'EXTORTION" ?

WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH STRAW PURCHASING???????????????????????

" ... weapons of death ..."

WHAT. You don't have a clue. 97, perhaps even 99%, of firearms, are used for, punching holes in paper, breaking clay targets, hunting. Do a Little Research. Look at the Facts ! Here's some for you. DOCTORS, cause 9,000 times MORE, DEATHS, than a Firearm.
Now you do the rest.
How many MORE, Deaths are caused by, Drowning? How many more by Poison? How many more by Elect? How may more by falling down steps/ladder/scaffolding? How may more by cars/trucks/MC'S? How many more by Bicycles? Etc, etc etc !
Yet, WHERE is the Outcry, 'We have to Ban ..."

I AM NOT ARGUING TO BAN GUNS, ANY KIND OF GUNS BUT THANKS FOR MAKING ANOTHER TALKING POINT ARGUMENT PUZBAG

" ... lumping me in with ..."
And: " ... so thank you for allowing criminals to buy guns ... "

Gee, how does it feel ?
Some DFI, who is Mentally Ill, Who, is a 'Terrorist', goes into a, 'Gun Free Zone'. And shoots up people. The the Media, the Government, the Liberal 'Gun Grabbers, ALL SAY, I, (and everyone else that owns a firearm) are AT FAULT.

DFI?? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? AGAIN, I AM NOT A LIBERAL GUN GRABBER JACKHOLE. CRAZY PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN CRAZY ACTIONS, YOU INCLUDED

And lastly, you say " ...I'm a pro second amendment..." No, you are NOT. Because you do NOT, know what it means !

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME, YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND ANYTHING I WRITE, YOU ARE CONVINCED I AM THE ENEMY HERE, I AM NOT, I'M THE MODERATE, INDEPENDENT. ALL THE TRAGEDIES YOU'VE MENTIONED, YEAH, THEY SUCK, OBAMA, BUSH, HOLDER ALL HAD BAD PROGRAMS, HELL, REAGAN AND HIS BUDDY NORTH SOLD MISSILES , MISSILES, AMONG OTHER ARMS TO IRAN, SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO BLAME OBAMA FOR HOLDER, YOU HAVE TO BLAME REAGAN FOR NORTH, BUSH SR TOO.

DON'T LABEL ME THE ENEMY, AND I'LL TRY TO START GIVING YOU A SPEC OF RESPECT, UNTIL THEN YOU DON'T DESERVE IT, TREAT ME LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL AND I'LL DO THE SAME, THAT MEANS YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET TO KNOW ME FIRST, BUT UNTIL THEN, YOU'RE A PARANOID PUZBAG NOT WORTH ANYMORE OF MY EFFORT

OH AND FOR THE "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, WELL, THEY SAY THAT ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT TOO, AND VOTING, BUT HEY, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A RIGHT, LET'S MAKE THEM GET ID, AND REGISTER, BUT OOOOOOOOH, THAT'S TOO MUCH FOR YOU ALL MIGHTY GUN OWNERS, TOO MUCH TROUBLE TO KEEP UP WITH YOUR PAPERWORK, YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO DESERVE TO HAVE A GUN.

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LostArtist Ex Member	Re: Are you SURE, this is what you want ? Reply #13 - 08/27/16 at 21:52:29 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/27/16 at 20:51:32: Daggum Spring,,, Hard to dispute Shall not be infringed... HARDER TO UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY, SOMEDAY HE'LL LEARN TO USE COMPLETE THOUGHTS TO RESPOND, someday, maybe....
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Reply #14 - 08/27/16 at 22:54:13

MnSpring wrote on 08/27/16 at 20:01:04:

Do you know what, ' ...well regulated ...", means?

It is not some, 'today's', 'Fairy Dust Sprinkler' version.
It means, -, You are FIGHTING for your FREEDOM, from, a force that wants to, enslave, you. And it means that, ALL the people from that town/area, are, 'well regulated', which means that they ALL Have the same size, ball and power charge, so if one runs out, they then can get more from their buddy".

Do you understand what a, "...free state..." means. It is to be able to KEEP, your freedom, from those who want to, enslave you"

" ... the right of the people ..." Should require NO explanation.
(Well unless you, WANT, to be enslaved)

"... shall not be infringed ..."
Ah, who, want's to, 'Infringe', Could it be, Carter/Clinton/Obama ??????
And could it be, because they don't want YOU, to oppose them ?

PLUNGER; A word that was around a VERY long time, before their was indoor plumbing. Does NOT mean, that is is, now, different! Than when first written.

The word, 'GAY', did it have a different meaning, just 50 years ago?
So all the 50 + year old references to that word, are, Now Changed ??????

The words: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" Written 240 years ago. STILL STAND.

Despite, what a, Wanna Be Queen, and her minions, say.

I'm quite sure this is the definition of insane... Huh

Aren't you arguing for the literal interpretation of the Constitution,... while giving specific examples of the evolution of language?...

Does your head hurt?... Undecided

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