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Clunking going into first.
08/19/16 at 17:11:51

I have found that when I stop for gas, after restarting, going into first makes a god-awful clunk In traffic if I give the bike time, clutch disengaged, no problem. In this situation I usually put the bike in gear push it back a bit to break the clutch and start in gear. which of course precludes the clashing of gears. I don't like loading the starter by doing this but 'the lesser of evils'

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Clunking going into first. Reply #1 - 08/19/16 at 17:31:03 Sidestand up, start in first?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28666 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Clunking going into first. Reply #2 - 08/19/16 at 17:33:29 Clunk is just normal... It's trying to sound like a Harley... My Sporty does it way better...
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Tocsik Serious Thumper Offline the singularity Posts: 1163 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: Clunking going into first. Reply #3 - 08/19/16 at 17:34:30 try pulling the clutch in and waiting a moment before trying to shift into first. If it's smoother, might to adjust the clutch cable a bit
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Clunking going into first. Reply #4 - 08/19/16 at 18:22:12 does your clutch drag a bit at stops? where's the throwout lever in relation to the marks on the case? may need to change the rod.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Clunking going into first. Reply #5 - 08/19/16 at 19:46:59 It clunks,it rattles,it wines and it farts out the tail pipe! It's a savage !get over it!
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eau de sauvage Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2565 Queensland Gender:	Re: Clunking going into first. Reply #6 - 08/19/16 at 21:23:03 Glad someone finally asked this, I've been wondering about the almighty clunk now I don't have to worry.
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Re: Clunking going into first.
Reply #7 - 08/19/16 at 21:52:22

I had a Kawasaki KX125 that I absolutely abused the clutch on. I weigh about 250 and that poor bike had to work four years with me on its back. Early on in owning it I found the clutch completely locked up. I hadn't realized it but this had been building up with warning signs like hard shifting, gray colored trans fluid, clutch-in stops killing the motor, and then the clutch would lock up after a day or so of sitting. I changed the oil and kept it fresh from then on and never had a symptom again. This is all extreme scenario for a street cruiser, but adjusting your clutch cable so it fully disengages the clutch and running fresh oil will keep your clutch happy. If you get you get your cable set so it disengages nicely but you have no free play at the lever then it may be time for a new cable, or possibly some clutch work.

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Re: Clunking going into first.
Reply #8 - 08/19/16 at 21:54:45

It's normal. 1st is always very loud. Sometimes, if I'm lucky, I can get an extremely quiet shift into the upper gears. It's smooth as butter and quiet as a morgue. Don't ask me how I do it. I don't know. The Savage was not designed to be a smooth, comfortable motorcycle. Suzi Q didn't put billions of dollars in R&D in this thing.

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Re: Clunking going into first.
Reply #9 - 08/19/16 at 21:55:15

Sounds like your clutch is not disengaging all the way. A small amount of clunk or gear clash is normal while it breaks the spinning clutch loose. But is it isn't disengaging all the way then it would be more of a clunk or clash sound. Does the bike lurch forward a little when you put it in gear?

Check for to much clutch lever free play then the release arm position. Like Versy said may be a short throwout arm and you need a longer one.

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Reply #10 - 08/20/16 at 04:37:32

When I first start my bike up and the engine is cold, the oil is thick and the first click into gear is always the loudest. My driveway slopes slightly downhill.....so I pull in the clutch, have my left foot on the shifter, and with my right foot I push off and get the bike rolling....and shift into gear while the bike is rolling forward, and it softens the clunk a bit.

After that......I just do things normally and let it make a little noise when going from neutral to first gear.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Clunking going into first. Reply #11 - 08/20/16 at 06:19:25 I just do things normally You just keep on telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
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Re: Clunking going into first.
Reply #12 - 08/20/16 at 07:24:39

Dave,
Mine is the opposite. It goes into gear, after cold starting, like butter? When I stop for gas and the bike is stopped for about 3 min or so it tries to rip the dogs off first gear. That's why I start in gear after fueling.???
The clutch seems to be adjusted properly. It doesn't make sense to me. The S40 gearbox isn't bad at all as long as finesse is used.

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18101 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Clunking going into first. Reply #13 - 08/20/16 at 07:29:19 That is weird....normally the clutch releases easier once the engine is warmed up and the oil is thinner.
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Re: Clunking going into first.
Reply #14 - 08/20/16 at 07:34:42

Norm,

I would think that your clutch is dragging slightly if it has an excessive clunk going into gear when the engine is warm.

When I stop to add petrol I always stop in gear. After I fill the fuel tank I push the bike forward a few feet while holding the clutch lever in to separate the clutch discs. I then push the shifter into neutral and start the engine and put it into gear without the clunk.

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