cheapnewb24 wrote on 08/17/16 at 10:21:32:


So you think that Suzuki should have used a T-Bolt....so that when you use it for to mount a sprocket that was never made for the bike......or you over torque it - it has a better chance to withstand the abuse?

I can't wait to see how well your clutch works when you leave out those pesky metal rings, or add a couple of Kevlar plates....Suzuki most likely didn't have a clue what they where doing when they designed the clutch or put those extra parts in there.

I have no problem with you trying to fix your bike, and learning new skills along the way.  I do believe you have had to go much deeper than your tools/skills allow - it is a shame you got a motorcycle that hasn't been very reliable, and that you don't have any skilled mechanics in the family to help you learn.

What I find aggravating is that you try to blame the engineer/manufacturer/mechanic for building it wrong, wanting too much money for everything, and generally not doing a good job.  Even with your very limited experience....you feel that you have the ability to mix chemicals, and add/remove parts ithat will result in better and cheaper stuff than the professionals can create with their vast resources.  I also find it aggravating that you are so slow to take good advice....either from the experienced folks on this forum....or the Clymer manual.

I'm going over and stand next to JOG for a while.....and just watch the show.

Man, I thought we had this topic wrapped up within the first couple of pages!  

Carry on...

I gotta Git me onna them Marmot things. I would build a Ride Along box for him to stand up in and train him to scream every time he saw a cell phone or someone doing anything STEWPID.

I saw a guy reading a book while driving yesterday. Today, I saw a woman taking selfies at 70 mph.

And we thought cell phones were bad!

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/17/16 at 13:33:27:

cheapnewb24 wrote on 08/18/16 at 08:47:31:



And, once again, the details come out.

After how long?

So, was there anything done differently with the one that stripped?
Were they all torqued in stages?
I'm guessing not.

Here is something for the inexperienced.

When assembling things, get all the bolts started.
Then, gently snug them, working a pattern. A head on a V8 has a different pattern than a wheel, but the concept is the same. On a sprocket, I would not even use a torque wrench. I know what Tight feels like. But I Would get all the bolts in, snug in a crossing pattern and continue In that pattern gradually increasing the torque until I Felt the bolts come tight. If I knew that they were Supposed to be able to Take 45pounds I would be looking at the effort I was putting out and length of the ratchet and maybe even add a cheater pipe to make it easier for me.
Six bolts ,, consider the Clamping Force of six bolts. The thread angle of the bolts, the finer the thread, the less angle. So, a fine thread with a given torque will clamp tighter than a coarse thread with the same torque, all else being equal.
Take six bolts, and think about just how hard it will be to make sure that sprocket is not gonna move.
What kinda power is it getting?
What was the
Recommended Torque you were given?Usually, it's a range, not a specific target. On the Savage the torque specs are often very wide. Just because a torque spec is listed in a book doesn't mean that a torque wrench is needed.

That
It just got easier to turn
Feeling?
You don't know it yet but your body learned what it feels like Just as it starts. Do that a few more times and You will develop the feel of a bolt coming to its full potential and more isn't better..

Now, is it possible that you got a bolt that just wasn't as strong as the others?
Yep,, could be. Some stuff just isn't up to snuff. But greasing up threads reduces rotational friction which requires less Torque to achieve the clamping force. And invites stripping threads.


So,
What went wrong?
What have you learned from it?