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Reply #15 - 08/10/16 at 09:49:07
 
Journalists and educators have degrees but its a stretch to call those groups educated. Scientists are a broader category.

but it's a good question, which came first the chicken or the egg so to speak.

It's virtually impossible to be a conservative "journalist" in today's media.  and every educator I know is a hard-core left liberal. Outside of her engineering professors, my daughters four years at University of Kansas had an abundance of liberals; they didn't teach as much as try to indoctrinate. All the stuff you read about college professors going on and on about their favorite liberal cause is 100% true.

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Reply #16 - 08/10/16 at 09:50:53
 
The flipside of that is my particular field. I run into very, very few people who do what I do who are liberals.  they just can't survive in my world .
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Reply #17 - 08/10/16 at 09:51:19
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/10/16 at 07:09:06:
So, most journalists, educators, and scientists, are liberal...

Does the liberal make the job, or does the job make the liberal?...

In general, more education makes you more liberal.
Conservatives blame brainwashing,.. liberals credit broader thought.

Most teachers are liberal due to liberal interference in the schooling system causing the thought process to be screwed up.
Have you seen new math lately?  There's some really screwed up thinking.
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Reply #18 - 08/10/16 at 10:32:38
 
C'mon you guys, just look at the 14-18 grades of education....
You have all these conservative students and teachers calling for restricting speech and ideology on the campus that run counter to their own beliefs, prejudice, and truths....
Now that shows you sumtin, don't it  Grin
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Reply #19 - 08/10/16 at 11:01:36
 
I have two Associates and I'm in a Bachelor's program now.

You guys have witnessed, first hand, my beliefs.


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Reply #20 - 08/10/16 at 12:22:50
 
Paraquat wrote on 08/10/16 at 11:01:36:
I have two Associates and I'm in a Bachelor's program now.

You guys have witnessed, first hand, my beliefs.


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Well maybe if you spent some more time vetting who they are, more than their figure, you wouldn't find yourself single, again  Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - 08/10/16 at 14:13:48
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/10/16 at 07:09:06:
So, most journalists, educators, and scientists, are liberal...

Does the liberal make the job, or does the job make the liberal?...

In general, more education makes you more liberal.
Conservatives blame brainwashing,.. liberals credit broader thought.



to me, it's become more about nuance, Conservatives don't get nuance, they like to simplify things and solutions to things, Liberals often get too concerned with nuance and want to try to protect too many little variations of things.

Education, especially higher education, exposes you to more and more nuanced things, and you get exposed to a crazy number of potentials and possibilities with all kinds of theories meant to tackle everything from the dark matter, string theory, psychological, sociology, history itself is questioned with new discoveries that enlighten our understanding of the past. It becomes harder to value this over that when everything is in a state of flux that is just as valid as the previous state of flux it was in.  so discrimination becomes harder, not like prejudice, but discrimination, you can see how one little thing affects all these other things and can change our understanding all over again,

one thing is constant though, Einstein is right.  Tongue
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Reply #22 - 08/10/16 at 18:18:35
 
here's a ton of reasons for the decline of education, but a grand conspiracy driven from the top down to turn America into mush-brains over a period of decades, ain't one of them.

That's an opinion. It's not been challenged. Unless and until you reach for information that Would challenge it, you can not be certain.
Who has the position to make Iserbyt WRONG?
Who, aside from me, has even bothered to expose themselves to anything that would contradict that opinion?
Until people take the time to consider the facts that She is reporting, AFTER BEING NEAR THE TOP OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, ..

What makes you smarter?
And why do you believe what you believe?
Is it just too much for there to actually be an evil hand?
What did ike say?
Why would Henry Ford be against the federal reserve so strongly, but YOU can't see it?
And, being so wrong there, ablind to it, you're wrong about the education system, too.
You're stuck believing that such conspiracies are impossible.
Yet, Hitlery is not in jail.
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Reply #23 - 08/10/16 at 18:39:31
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/10/16 at 18:18:35:
here's a ton of reasons for the decline of education, but a grand conspiracy driven from the top down to turn America into mush-brains over a period of decades, ain't one of them.

That's an opinion. It's not been challenged. Unless and until you reach for information that Would challenge it, you can not be certain.
Who has the position to make Iserbyt WRONG?
Who, aside from me, has even bothered to expose themselves to anything that would contradict that opinion?
Until people take the time to consider the facts that She is reporting, AFTER BEING NEAR THE TOP OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, ..

What makes you smarter?
And why do you believe what you believe?
Is it just too much for there to actually be an evil hand?
What did ike say?
Why would Henry Ford be against the federal reserve so strongly, but YOU can't see it?
And, being so wrong there, ablind to it, you're wrong about the education system, too.
You're stuck believing that such conspiracies are impossible.
Yet, Hitlery is not in jail.




do you ever not attack Hillary in a post?  even if it's not about her?  like when you are responding in other parts of this forum are you like, "oh and remember, Hillary is evil!!!  don't forget that torque is 20nm
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Reply #24 - 08/10/16 at 20:00:00
 
to me, it's become more about nuance, Conservatives don't get nuance, they like to simplify things and solutions to things, Liberals often get too concerned with nuance and want to try to protect too many little variations of things.

I'd go along with that, for the most part anyway. Good point.
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Reply #25 - 08/10/16 at 20:26:26
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/10/16 at 20:00:00:
to me, it's become more about nuance, Conservatives don't get nuance, they like to simplify things and solutions to things, Liberals often get too concerned with nuance and want to try to protect too many little variations of things.

I'd go along with that, for the most part anyway. Good point.


Could we say conservatives like to think in absolutes, liberals like to think they are more open minded?
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Reply #26 - 08/10/16 at 20:27:42
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/10/16 at 20:00:00:
to me, it's become more about nuance, Conservatives don't get nuance, they like to simplify things and solutions to things, Liberals often get too concerned with nuance and want to try to protect too many little variations of things.

I'd go along with that, for the most part anyway. Good point.


Could we say conservatives like to think in absolutes, liberals like to think they are not that rigid?
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Reply #27 - 08/10/16 at 22:06:35
 
Absolutely... Huh
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Reply #28 - 08/10/16 at 23:52:48
 
I've typed so many nuanced concepts and watched nobody deal with it. The left are no more cerebral, and pretend that they have some
High ground.

Avoid the information that I have begged you to expose yourselves to and pretend that you're above it all.
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Reply #29 - 08/11/16 at 03:45:04
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/10/16 at 23:52:48:
I've typed so many nuanced concepts and watched nobody deal with it. The left are no more cerebral, and pretend that they have some
High ground.

Avoid the information that I have begged you to expose yourselves to and pretend that you're above it all.


Jog, no one is pretending......
I think that is where your reasoning gets you into trouble ( with yourself ).
Perception and belief is scripted through everyone's own prejudice and life experience.
Yes, much of our prejudice is taught, be it liberal, or conservative, or between.
To first challenge, remove, and instill another belief, is a great challenge, as it can go to our very core.
In a perfect world, that would be awesome, however, in this world, our leaders and teachers WON'T even do by example, for ridicule awaits those who do.....

When I came to the conclusion, boys can cry, other realizations followed, macho isn't smart.    

So I guess I am trying to say we all have different stimuli.
This is the key factor that drives our brain function.
It is most controversial today re: transgender issues, etc.
However, all of us are driven by that fact.
It is no different than experiencing a different view,and life experience, from being Black.
It's real Jog, and to say something like the White perspective, is "trump" darn, I am beginning to hate that world....
Is wrong, only because white men crafted our constitution, etc.

I believe my draw to faith, is my stimuli as well, yet, many try to deny me my right, or restrict it, based on their prejudice they learned elsewhere....
So I am being judged unfairly, or, unjustly....
This happens everyday against everybody.
All we can do is to not take everything personally, for it will never change bro.

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