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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	The Skyhooker is spot on..... 07/16/16 at 08:18:53 A Laker, maybe Baker, a Muslim, and Black, and just a good gentle with a great soul giant.... Terror on Both Sides of the Badge http://time.com/4404767/kareem-abdul-jabbar-police-shootings/?xid=homepage
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Re: The Skyhooker is spot on.....
Reply #1 - 07/16/16 at 08:56:58

Part of that context is the fact that the recent police killings of Philando Castile...

And what Story is HE basing his context ON?

Gee, pulled over for a busted light and wind up DEAD?

Or

Dispatch, I have a match for the robbery suspects. I'm pulling them over right now.

Upon arrival at the car window, sees a gun in the guys lap.

Tells him

Don't Move..

There is subtle message in the idea that being pulled over for a busted light can result in getting shot and killed.
How can such an innocuous thing reasonably and justifiably escalate from maybe getting a warning for the light to getting Shot?

It's a Whole lot easier to grasp how a doppelganger for a robbery suspect could get shot.
Especially when he has a pistol in his lap and decides to move after being Told to Not move.

Cop mishandled it. Should have stepped toward the rear of the car, stuck the gun to suspect's head, ordered the gun out the window , held between thumb and forefinger, car off, toss keys out, but, heat of the moment and all that..

And I can't Prove that is what happened... but it Is the new story...
Is there a tape of communications between dispatch and patrol?
Is there a busted light on the car?
WAS it there before?
Dead man's GF and the cop are the only witnesses, AFAIK, unless they have body cameras...
But, we shouldn't be able to see, because it's just so confusing to see what actually happened.

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Reply #2 - 07/16/16 at 09:19:12

Jog, what I get is that nothing will change until we quit the blame and look at ourself.
For me to guess your thoughts, etc, will always be just that, a guess.
To act on a guess really isn't the best policy, results not assured.
I do however, know my own thoughts and belief, yes, some folks are deluded, but that doesn't shift the burden away from us.

Let me give you this example to how screwed up we are in communicating these days....
A high profile white guy says honestly, " I don't understand how the Black race can overlook Chicago's black on black crime and get all worked up when it's appears a bad black teen with a history of violence gets killed because of his actions"
We most likely will get no dialogue, and based solely on HIS race, be saddled with negativity, demeaned, etc, and we get no closer to any sort of understanding......

Those who think ignorance means stupid, are a fine example of it Grin

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #3 - 07/16/16 at 11:07:37 Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #1 - Today at 16:56:58 Alert Board Moderator about this Post! Quote Modify Remove Part of that context is the fact that the recent police killings of Philando Castile... And what Story is HE basing his context ON? There is more than one story...
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #4 - 07/16/16 at 15:20:50 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/16/16 at 11:07:37: And what Story is HE basing his context ON? I know he didn't have a CCP issued from the county he lived in. He could have got one from another part of the state.... Is it confirmed the CCP story is bogus? Best regards,
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #5 - 07/16/16 at 16:00:16 How is Anything Confirmed? When LIES are the most prevalent commodity?
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #6 - 07/16/16 at 20:27:30 That's right. Another question - When or how did snopes.com become the benchmark measure for authenticity for the site? Best regards,
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #7 - 07/16/16 at 21:29:12 When I Snopsed Snopes it said it was all lies.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28663 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #8 - 07/16/16 at 22:50:14 Okay,.. WTF is this entire thread about?... What's a Skyhooher?... What did who Snope?... Is there something going on in Bizarro conspiracy world that sane people should know about?... Hello?,.. reality calling...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #9 - 07/16/16 at 23:11:13 I think Skyhook was the name of a shot made by Kareem. Taking a shot at Snopes? Ohhh,, what could be more fun'?
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Reply #10 - 07/17/16 at 05:31:27

Both the black and police communities live in fear—because they cannot see each other's humanity.

That's the opening line and therein lies the problem. Many police have a hard time seeing the humanity in the black neighborhoods they patrol and sometimes who could blame them? The sad truth is those two guys weren't shot necessarily because of who they were or the current circumstances they were in, but because of the thousands and thousands of encounters police have with blacks acting basically sub-human. That's harsh, but true. St. Louis paper this morning reports three black men killed Friday and Saturday night, of course by other black men. The other crimes, the children left to raise themselves, the poverty they seem to find acceptable, the absolute reliance on government assistance for every facet of their lives.... how can this not impact the attitude of a cop as he confronts a situation with what he perceives to be just another NWA?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #11 - 07/17/16 at 06:29:01 The PERCEPTION they are Trying to sell us is as you say. Ohhh, geee, pulled over for a busted tail light and, because nobody truly understands anyone else he wound up dead... No, the idiot had a gun ,in his lap and didn't listen to the cop.
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13126 Gender:	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #12 - 07/17/16 at 07:12:05 The difference is if a cop in my neighborhood pulled me over for a broken tail light and I had a gun on my lap, I probably don't get shot, probably. I might, but I get the benefit of the doubt. My point is he didn't, not because of him as an individual but because of all the other interactions cops have with blacks.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: The Skyhooker is spot on..... Reply #13 - 07/17/16 at 07:16:17 Well, the new story IS they matched the description of Robbery Suspects He was TOLD Don't Move once the cop saw the gun He moved. The PERCEPTION that Any Interaction with a cop can get a black man killed is Sold .. And, again, according to the New story No busted light
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Reply #14 - 07/17/16 at 07:23:59

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/17/16 at 07:16:17:

Well, the new story IS
they matched the description of Robbery Suspects
He was TOLD
Don't Move once the cop saw the gun
He moved.

The PERCEPTION that Any Interaction with a cop can get a black man killed is Sold ..

And, again, according to the New story

No busted light

If your point is that liberals and protestors/rioters exaggerate..... well hell, you'll get no argument from me.

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