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07/12/16 at 05:32:47
 
Below is from the smartest man in America, Walter E Williams. He articulated much better than I could what I've thought which is the black community is 9-% to blame for the situation we find ourselves in today. The last paragraph is a perfect illustration that politics is what's holding back progress in black America.



President Barack Obama and his first attorney general, Eric Holder, called for an honest conversation about race. Holder even called us “a nation of cowards” because we were unwilling to have a “national conversation” about race. The truth of the matter is there’s been more than a half-century of conversations about race. We do not need more. Instead, black people need to have frank conversations among ourselves, no matter how uncomfortable and embarrassing the topics may be.

Among the nation’s most dangerous cities are Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee, Birmingham, Newark, Cleveland and Philadelphia. These once-thriving cities are in steep decline. What these cities have in common is that they have large black populations. Also, they have been run by Democrats for nearly a half-century, with blacks having significant political power. Other characteristics these cities share are poorly performing and unsafe schools, poor-quality city services, and declining populations.

Each year, more than 7,000 blacks are murdered. That’s a number greater than white and Hispanic murder victims combined. Blacks of all ages are killed at six times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined. According to the FBI, the police kill about 400 people a year; blacks are roughly one-third of that number. In Chicago alone, so far this year, over 2,000 people have been shot, leaving over 320 dead. It’s a similar tale of mayhem in other predominantly black cities.

Heather Mac Donald’s most recent book, “The War on Cops,” points out some devastating and sobering statistics: “Blacks were charged with 62 percent of all robberies, 57 percent of all murders, and 45 percent of all assaults in the 75 largest U.S. counties in 2009, while constituting roughly 15 percent of the population in those counties. From 2005 to 2014, 40 percent of cop-killers were black. Given the racially lopsided nature of gun violence, a 26 percent rate of black victimization by the police is not evidence of bias.”

The primary victims of lawlessness are black people. To address this problem and most others, black people should ignore the liberal agenda. If civil authorities will not do their job of creating a safe environment, then black people should take the initiative. One example comes to mind. In 1988, at the request of residents, black Muslims began to patrol Mayfair Mansions, a drug-infested, gang-ridden, unsafe Washington, D.C., housing project (http://tinyurl.com/zsszjgk). The gangs and drug lords left. The Nation of Islam sentinels were not deterred by the wishes of politicians and the American Civil Liberties Union. They didn’t feel obliged to give kid glove treatment to criminals. Black residents of crime-infested neighborhoods should set up patrols, armed if necessary, to challenge thugs, gangs, drug dealers and other miscreants and make black neighborhoods safe and respectable. No one should have to live in daily fear for his life and safety. Most Americans have no idea of — and wouldn’t begin to tolerate — the climate of fear and intimidation under which so many black people live.

Without self-initiative, there is not much that can be done about the high crime rate in black neighborhoods. Black and white liberals and their allies in the ACLU, as well as many libertarians, will not countenance the kind of tools needed to bring about civility. For example, the Chicago Police Department recently entered an agreement with the ACLU to record contact cards for all street stops. The ACLU claimed that police were disproportionately targeting minorities for questioning and searches. The practical result will be fewer investigative stops by policemen and more crime, and it will be black residents who suffer.

Black people have the capacity to run the criminals out of their neighborhoods. Let me put the issue another way. Suppose it were the Ku Klux Klan riding through black neighborhoods murdering 7,000 blacks year after year. How many black people would be willing to wait for the Klansmen to behave themselves or accept political promises and wait for a government program?
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Reply #1 - 07/12/16 at 06:26:36
 
Among the nation’s most dangerous cities are Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee, Birmingham, Newark, Cleveland and Philadelphia. These once-thriving cities are in steep decline. What these cities have in common is that they have large black populations. Also, they have been run by Democrats for nearly a half-century, with blacks having significant political power. Other characteristics these cities share are poorly performing and unsafe schools, poor-quality city services, and declining populations.



If white republicans were the big driving force, im pretty sure our left leaning friends would be pointing this out and, AND, asking

Okay, white.   And republican.  And you have failed economies, schools and a dangerous society..


Okay, is it republican ideology that is bad?
Or, is it the whites?
Or, what?

Something is OBVIOUSLY WRONG with the picture.
The Common Elements are What political ideology has been prevalent
And a Large population of Blacks.
The black population and the democrat ideology, where these two things exist, failure IS.
Now, have a look down the list, Note Libya, too, and Iran,
Remember, these are places where vicious, low forms of humanity are the norm..


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Darn near the bottom are Iceland and others with generally socialist leaning societies,, and LOW murder,, so, what is missing?

Then we ask why,, And note that Prior to
The Great Society there were little areas of Blacks, communities, black business owners and job creating ventures. The
Out of Wedlock stats were Fine, and the Mom, head of household, was not common.
We have been MANEUVERED into the divisions we see.
Yes, it's Where Blacks ARE,but it's Also where Opportunity Is No More, and that was no accident.




Why do drug dealers shoot each other on street corners?
Answer: Joe the drug dealer cannot call the cops and tell them that Jack the drug dealer ripped him off and sold him a bag of oregano instead of weed.  Joe also can’t sue Jack.  Thus, when the threshold of his tolerance is crossed Joe has only the use of direct force available to him because he has no recourse to the law to settle his dispute with Jack.
The FIRST foundation of civil society is The Rule of Law.  Without it there is literally nothing other than the Law of the Jungle, commonly known as “he who has the biggest teeth (or the most guns) and is willing to use them first wins.”



Williams seems so smart because he's a black man who doesn't agree with the democrats ideology. He doesn't study the world through the lenses blacks are Supposed to see the world through. He is Intellectually Honest. He isn't saying anything I Haven't said, it only seems to be so incredibly brilliant because he's black and isn't brainwashed.



Another excerpt


The Federal government is arming every agency from the IRSto the State Department for domestic purposes. This is clearly a response to what they know is coming. There is no question that they are preparing for an uprising. They know that socialism is collapsing. Rather than reform the political economy, they are digging in their heels and getting ready to fight the civilian population.


Now, you can pretend that isn't so, or accept the fact that these things have been made public, in more
News Anchors
once again just saying that the government has purchased hollow point ammo and weapons for the agencies Of the government, and they SAY it like it's normal! And what other constitution choking crap? Wasn't it the NDAA? Seems to me that set them up to be able to snatch Anyone and not even Tell their families they were arrested. No phone call, no lawyer, no charges, no trial... just Gone..
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Reply #2 - 07/12/16 at 08:01:42
 
I highly respect the man, however, and without going to far out in the limb with why faith belief works for the masses.....
The race issue has spawned even more confusion on relationships because we have censored dialogue with a PC requirement(s) that by its very nature won't allow, or accept, differences, or prejudices, based on everyone's life experiences.....
And now the issue has become so convoluted and fragmented, I am not sure if even a Black man himself knows the answer.

A true story.
I was involved in civil litigation. I was present during jury seating.
The state attorney struck every black person off the jury until they ran out of strikes.
Funny, odd, or sad, they used race to decide, when they prosecute others for the same actions, WTF????
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Reply #3 - 07/12/16 at 08:10:23
 
Jog; is it your opinion that certain individuals have gathered together and pieced together a plan to force open a divide using race so they can swoop in, pick up the pieces and profit through money & power?
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Reply #4 - 07/12/16 at 08:33:03
 
WebsterMark wrote on 07/12/16 at 08:10:23:
Jog; is it your opinion that certain individuals have gathered together and pieced together a plan to force open a divide using race so they can swoop in, pick up the pieces and profit through money & power?

Funny,... that was Charles Manson's ideology...
HELTER SKELTER...Huh
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Reply #5 - 07/12/16 at 08:38:08
 
How anyone could conclude otherwise is difficult to grasp. When
Divide and Conquer is and has been one of the tactics of war forever and we see division, and the Greatest Uniters , dead, and the poverty pimping, racist Jackson, Sharpton etc,,
By keeping society divided the voice of the People CAN'T unify against the policy makers that drove the Money Machine as we developed more and more weapons during the Cold War,  The warmongers got rich from both sides building weapons. And the People were convinced that WE needed more Bombs, because
They could destroy the World 22 times and we could Only destroy the world 21 times... And I was alone in my understanding that that policy was STUPID. How many times do people need to be able to destroy the Whole World?
And today? People just swallow lies, and some support more war.. And believe that giving Banks money helps the economy, instead of helping people who the Banks screwed..

Through economic policy, like Nafta and all the other horrible deals we see growing disparity. If it's not intentionally done, it's still obviously needing to change. And even IF someone Says that the problem s that arose after policies were enacted were
Unintended Consequences
Does Not mean that they were Unforeseeable.
At some point stupid Has to cease to be cover for sabotage.
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Reply #6 - 07/12/16 at 08:40:05
 
Yea, I know. You stole my thunder!
But, I think Jog's point is the "mess" is not a mess at all, it's going as planned.

But Jog and Walter  are both correct that in the past there was no such thing as an achievement gap between black-and-white. There was no such thing as the huge disparity with fathers in the home. It was only after politicians (Democrats) got involved that the black community was ruined.
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Reply #7 - 07/12/16 at 08:48:28
 
When was that time in the past?...
What year?... or what period of time?...
I musta' missed it...
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Serowbot wrote on 07/12/16 at 08:48:28:
When was that time in the past?...
What year?... or what period of time?...
I musta' missed it...


Tell you what you should do; look up Walter E William's website and read through it. You'll find it along with a lot of other interesting stuff.

Now Jog; How anyone could conclude otherwise is difficult to grasp

It's easy to grasp. Again, there is no wide spread coordinate effort. There are hundreds of individual actions taken without direct consultation with others, that created the results you see. It's not the other way around.
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Reply #9 - 07/12/16 at 09:23:28
 
I see it differently.. I see, of course, not EVERYTHING that has happened is
From a coordinated effort.

That Doesn't mean that there Isn't a coordinated effort.
It's not necessary for Every event that impacts a segment of society to be FROM some groups evil desire for there to Be a group working to drive policy that protects their interests.
Once chaos exists sufficient to maintain the iniquity and division, their work is done.
Someone is benefiting from the problems. Just opportunistic or did they play a role in helping the problems along?
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Serowbot wrote on 07/12/16 at 08:33:03:
WebsterMark wrote on 07/12/16 at 08:10:23:
Jog; is it your opinion that certain individuals have gathered together and pieced together a plan to force open a divide using race so they can swoop in, pick up the pieces and profit through money & power?

Funny,... that was Charles Manson's ideology...
HELTER SKELTER...Huh




And exactly how does that mean anything Here?
I don't see a lot of commonality between me and Manson, but,If it's there, then he is pretty smart..
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justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/12/16 at 09:23:28:
I see it differently.. I see, of course, not EVERYTHING that has happened is
From a coordinated effort.

That Doesn't mean that there Isn't a coordinated effort.
It's not necessary for Every event that impacts a segment of society to be FROM some groups evil desire for there to Be a group working to drive policy that protects their interests.
Once chaos exists sufficient to maintain the iniquity and division, their work is done.
Someone is benefiting from the problems. Just opportunistic or did they play a role in helping the problems along?



Opportunistic. No one is coordinating police shootings for example.

There are people/organizations waiting to pounce. Soros for one. I just got a Bass Pro mailer this morning with the title "NRA Freedom Days" which as you can imagine , is taking advantage of recent events. Did they already have this mailer planned? Not sure. If they didn't, they were smart to pounce on the mood of their customers.

One thing's for sure, they (nor anyone else)  planned, organized and carried on the police killings in Baton Rouge for example to boost gun sales.
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Opportunistic. No one is coordinating police shootings for example.

Well duuh...

And the school system is Not designed to fail? I've pointed it out countless times before that they made changes that Admittedly caused Lower Performance, yet, they Never Undid the Bad Choice, they simply Used the
Our schools are broken
To demand power to Make More Changes.

The trade deals have destroyed our people.

And you come back to me with police shootings? Totally ridiculous to even pretend I'm so stupid as to see that as something being created by a dark hand.


And YOU PEOPLE want to disregard what I say, but Eisenhower WARNED of a military industrialial complex, JFK alluded to a dark and secret power, and the divisions of society caused by these nebulous problems Just H appen to make all that easier to accomplish, but, it's unrelated.

You are Why we can't fix it.
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Reply #13 - 07/12/16 at 11:39:34
 
well it's kind of hard to blame me if you think I am treating you poorly and citing elementary examples to you but you're the one who thinks Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld planned and helped execute 911. So based on that, I think I do need to explain elementary things to you.

...and no, the school system is not designed to fail. Like a lot of other things, it's controlled by liberal ideology. Which has proven to be an absolute disaster. It's not a coordinated effort, it's just the accumulated stupidity of liberals in charge, that's all.
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Reply #14 - 07/12/16 at 11:54:05
 
If you're not old enough to remember watching the news and hearing the arguments and seeing the demand for money and power to make changes and WATCH those Changes CAUSE LOWERED PERFORMANCE, only to never see any rolled back, just more change made, how do you know what they are designed to be? Have Any of you even spent one hour listening to Charlotte Izerbyt explain what she SAW from inside the DOE?  Listen, educate yourself.

The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America


Or just KEEP believing your government.

You are NOw the one who is dragging up 9/11 and you can't explain why the cement all turned into powder before it hit the ground.

But, what none of you will do is address the FACTS I lay down.

The TWO parties never repeal what their mortal enemies did..

Yeah, they are opposed to each other..
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