We can either choose to get along, which will require forgiveness, an open hand, not a fist, and patience.....
Or,
Fight.

It's not the guns, it's not our race, gender, beliefs, or any other characteristic that might define and seperate us.
It's us, you, me.

The healing starts with each and everyone of us, or none of us....

It's that simple, choose.

Peace.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/10/16 at 08:50:17:


No you don't  

I would feel safe in stating I believe you have a loving and gentle heart!
I believe most rational people only want to get along.
Of course we feel better when others share our beliefs, and kinda "judge" them, assigning a general wrong or misguided label to them, if they don't.
We don't often try and wrap an understanding about what it is they say or feel. We push back in a defensive manner, they likewise, and all we garner from such an encounter is ill will.

It's hard, we have been propagandized since the beginning, and it has gotten way more sophisticated.
If we were to label those influences that lead us away from a sustainable peace, we might call it evil, or sin, yet, that is just a little to vague, abstract, or maybe "religious", we need something more familiar, as if we could touch it, to make it real.....
And that is where we slip into the thinking its circumstance, others, etc, that are the cause of all the divisiveness in our life/world.  

Paraquat wrote on 07/11/16 at 09:29:13:

It goes both ways implies an us against them mentality....
As if, married homo's are taking your guns...

The me and my, and they and them,... is the problem...
It should be, us.. all different but all together...

There are, and should be, limits on rights.  They should be decided by all, for the benefit of all...  allowing for the most freedoms possible, without infringing on others.  
How does this particular right, affect me, you, others, and us as a nation?...
We,... all should decide.  as a people.  not as us vs them...

"I'm okay with gay marriage, as long as you don't touch my guns",... is a divisive non sequitur...

What limits need to be on the first and second?

t should be, us.. all different but all together.

Except for the Trump supporters, They are supporting hate and bigotry, so,whip sumass.. they deserve it.

I know, I Saw you say assault was wrong, after you said it was good.

There are, and should be, limits on rights.  They should be decided by all, for the benefit of all...  allowing for the most freedoms possible, without infringing on others.  
How does this particular right, affect me, you, others, and us as a nation?...
We,... all should decide.  as a people.  

And there in lies the rub, as they say.

My owning an assault rifle does not infringe on anyone. The only way it does is if I use it illegally.  

We have, in a sense,  decided about gun control because of the existence and power of the NRA. You liberals like to think the NRA is some kind of independent monster but it only exist because people, millions and millions of people, fund it.

you say we should all decide as a people, fine let's do that. However the odds are stacked against the conservative ideology. The liberal side of the spectrum has their members plus the majority of the mainstream media. The other side of the coin only has only their members on whatever topic. It's always 2 to 1.

The entertainment and media culture always assumes the liberal  ideology as it's default position. Always. That constant " preaching"  of the liberal point of you has an impact, especially on young people. That's why a majority percentage of people under 25 always vote Democratic but as they get older a significant portion of them wise up and tend to slide to the right side of the political spectrum. That's because experience finally catches up to them and they're able  to tune out the subliminal messages.

it's why do liberals hate FOXNews so much why you hate Rush Limbaugh so much. These are organizations and people that actually stand up to the liberal powerbase.

I guess my point is elections on social issues aren't always fair because our media has chosen one particular color jersey to wear instead of being neutral.  this is part of the reason for trumps appeal. He's one of the few people who are able to overcome the liberal media's influence. At least so far.

Why the lumping smack talk?
So much generalization, and augastity.....
Yes, all gays like little boys.
Yes, all Black's like fried catfish, collards, and Cadillac's.
Hispanics, retried beans.
Asians ( we can lump the whole continent ) fish heads.
Republicans stupid
Democrats, smart.
Etc.

Sadly, you don't even understand that it's sheep, little weak heard animals, those lacking appreciation for things different than themselves....
That are the cause of this insanity.
By any chance, do you buy boots that make you appear taller?

Are there boots that make you appear shorter?..

I'm not generalizing...  It's just a fact.
Fox viewers score lower on basic knowledge of current issues.
The question is,.. are they inherently dumber, or are they misled by inaccurate reporting by Fox?...
either way,.. watching Fox don't help... or the am radio echo chamber.

Snap! MSNBC rates same as Fox

http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informe...

Quote: