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Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
06/30/16 at 20:06:29
 
A few weeks ago, I replaced the cam chain adjuster with the verslagen version. It didn't occur to me until after everything was all put together and I'd ridden it a while that I probably should have put Loctite on the small shoulder bolt that attaches the adjuster to the tensioner.

Do I need to be worried that the bolt will vibrate loose? I didn't put much torque on it because the actual thickness of the threaded part is pretty thin and I didn't want to break it. Don't really want to have to crack the case open again and install another gasket it I don't have to.

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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #1 - 06/30/16 at 20:55:34
 
I don't know Dave ,but the price of a gasket is worth the piece of mind,I'd go in ,you've been there before so it should go faster/easier the next time.
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Reply #2 - 06/30/16 at 21:21:17
 
Before I do, I'd like to know if others who have replaced the adjuster didn't use Loctite, but have had no problems with the bolt coming loose. I don't recall any mention of it in the instructions or in Clymer, it just seemed like a good idea to me after the fact.
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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #3 - 06/30/16 at 21:52:20
 
I don't use locktite here, but I probably torque it to the max.

Some of the bolts will slip when you get to max torque (15 to 20 ft lbs, that maybe an overestimate, 1/4" ratchet wrench till it feels right)
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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #4 - 06/30/16 at 21:54:04
 
David,

It would be a good idea to contact Verslagen and seek his opinion.

I wouldn't tear it apart the second time if I didn't have to.

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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #5 - 06/30/16 at 22:09:11
 
Not kicking anyone in the pants, but that's the kinda stuff that everyone who reads this needs to consider. It's not a bad idea to stop before the last Button Up step and think about it.
Dave, IIRC you were a bit hesitant to walk off in there.
Aside from the concern about that nut, how do you feel about it?



FWIW, Before I learned to slow down and think about stuff,I had to go back in things. You have enough mechanical smarts to sit down and replay the video in your head,you're gonna make a good enough mechanic to take care of your bike.
Okay, so in order to be at peace you're going to go back in,  that's Loads better than putting up tools and washing hands and not even thinking about what you did in there. Congratulations,man.
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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #6 - 07/01/16 at 01:05:44
 
DavidOfMA wrote on 06/30/16 at 21:21:17:
Before I do, I'd like to know if others who have replaced the adjuster didn't use Loctite, but have had no problems...


I didn't use any loctite and haven't had any dramas since I did the job 3 years ago. Not an issue. IMO, YMMV etc.
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Reply #7 - 07/01/16 at 02:58:38
 
It's gunna worry you until you go back in there and apply a drop of locktite! I'm exactly the same. Just do it and put your mind at rest! Better than spending the next 20,000 miles listening and waiting and thinking the worst instead of just enjoying the ride.
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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #8 - 07/01/16 at 03:21:59
 
Is it a self locking nut?

If you do go back in, remove it, clean up all the threads,
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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #9 - 07/01/16 at 05:22:50
 
Thanks, everyone. Any others besides gizzo (and, it sounds like, verslagen) who did the job, didn't use loctite, and have had no problems? (Or who didn't, and had the bolt come loose?)

Did most of you use loctite on that shoulder bolt?

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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #10 - 07/01/16 at 05:28:12
 
Except for the worry about that bolt, I feel fine about the job. It was, however, a royal pain, because I had numerous frozen nuts and bolts to deal with, broke one on the muffler that was welded solid with rust, and was doing a lot of things for the first time. But I'm getting there....


justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/30/16 at 22:09:11:
Not kicking anyone in the pants, but that's the kinda stuff that everyone who reads this needs to consider. It's not a bad idea to stop before the last Button Up step and think about it.
Dave, IIRC you were a bit hesitant to walk off in there.
Aside from the concern about that nut, how do you feel about it?



FWIW, Before I learned to slow down and think about stuff,I had to go back in things. You have enough mechanical smarts to sit down and replay the video in your head,you're gonna make a good enough mechanic to take care of your bike.
Okay, so in order to be at peace you're going to go back in,  that's Loads better than putting up tools and washing hands and not even thinking about what you did in there. Congratulations,man.

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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #11 - 07/01/16 at 08:47:04
 
The factory service manual does not say anything about using Loctite on this bolt.  I did use a torque wrench but no Loctite.  About 10,000 miles ago.
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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #12 - 07/01/16 at 09:01:58
 
ls650v wrote on 07/01/16 at 08:47:04:
The factory service manual does not say anything about using Loctite on this bolt.  I did use a torque wrench but no Loctite.  About 10,000 miles ago.


What torque? It's a pretty small bolt at the thread end. Thanks!
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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #13 - 07/01/16 at 11:33:29
 
Locktight doesn't do anything when heat is added, that bolt swims in hot oil.
I always use a torque wrench when possible. ..
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Re: Question on cam chain adjuster replacement
Reply #14 - 07/01/16 at 13:04:22
 
Yoshi wrote on 07/01/16 at 11:33:29:
Locktight doesn't do anything when heat is added, that bolt swims in hot oil.
I always use a torque wrench when possible. ..


Most of the thread lockers are good up to 300F. How hot can the oil in our bikes get before the engine fries? From what I'm reading on various motorcycle forums, it's rare for the oil in even an air-cooled bike engine to get up to 300F.
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