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Engine/bike speed through the gears
06/29/16 at 05:55:30

Greetings.

I am looking for a chart with engine speeds in various gears. I have checked out http://www.gearingcommander.com but they only have an LS650 '87-94 which only lists 4 gears, rather than 5.

Also what engine speeds should I keep the bike under till I hit 1600kms, after which I presume that I can open her up a little more.

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18098 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #1 - 06/29/16 at 06:16:47 Didn't you get an owners manual with the bike? It most likely has the recommended speeds for the break in period. Here is a 5 speed chart....in mph. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1341162964
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28649 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #2 - 06/29/16 at 08:04:00 Breaking in,.. I'd keep it under 70mph... don't try for any 1/4 mile speed records,... and vary the throttle (try to avoid long steady cruising)... Using some engine braking to slow the bike helps seat the rings, too...
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Reply #3 - 06/29/16 at 08:10:48

OK thanks for the thread link, I searched but I did not find. Yes it does have the break in speed recommendations but it does not detail the rpm however after having a second look at it they have a recommended maximum rpm but I was wondering how they expected you to know seeing as it does not have a tacho, but I see now that their maximum rpm must correlate to their maximum suggested speed, that was not obvious to me at the time.

I've redone one of the charts in kph FFIW.

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RaleighGuy Full Member Offline It's as easy as 3.14159265358979 Posts: 132 Raleigh, NC Gender:	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #4 - 06/29/16 at 08:33:10 I never paid much attention to how fast I was going. I never really thought about what gear I was in, either. I just listen to the engine. If it sounds too fast, I change to a higher gear. If it sounds slow, like it's bogging down slightly, then I switch down a gear.
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eau de sauvage Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2565 Queensland Gender:	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #5 - 06/29/16 at 09:06:34 @RaleighGuy, Yeah, I'm with you on that one, however after the bike is fully broken in, I'd like to almost redline it through the gears occasionally.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18098 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #6 - 06/29/16 at 09:22:45 I am not sure how/why 6,500 rpm has been established as the redline rpm on the Savage. Advertising shows that the maximum HP on a stock engine occurs at 5,400 rpm, and the maximum torque at 3,400 rpm - but where is 6,500 rpm documented as the Official Suzuki approved redline?
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Reply #7 - 06/29/16 at 09:39:23

Dave wrote on 06/29/16 at 09:22:45:
I am not sure how/why 6,500 rpm has been established as the redline rpm on the Savage. Advertising shows that the maximum HP on a stock engine occurs at 5,400 rpm, and the maximum torque at 3,400 rpm - but where is 6,500 rpm documented as the Official Suzuki approved redline?

I'm certain that the fillings in my teeth would fall out at 6500 rpm.

I don't know what the redline is, but find the vibration above 5000 rpm obtrusive.

I've owned plenty of single cylinder four-stroke bikes that didn't have a tach, most of them told you well in advance when they were approaching redline by the vibration and loss of power due to valve float. The exception was my YZF250 would would happily rev beyond redline, except the electronics stopped the party.

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Reply #8 - 06/29/16 at 09:49:54

My engine is not stock....and it easily revs up to 7,000 rpm in the lower gears and is still pulling - but I don't go there often and shifting to the next gear seems prudent. It isn't vibrating horribly at those rpm....but full throttle acceleration is noisy and does shake the handlebars, mirrors and footpegs...and the engine is far smoother at 4,500 rpm and lower.

It could be the stock cam/head/piston just doesn't get enough air moving through the engine.

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eau de sauvage Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2565 Queensland Gender:	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #9 - 06/29/16 at 09:57:02 Dave wrote on 06/29/16 at 09:22:45: ...but where is 6,500 rpm documented as the Official Suzuki approved redline? It is the maximum recommended engine speed in the owner's manual.
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Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears
Reply #10 - 06/29/16 at 10:17:11

eau de sauvage wrote on 06/29/16 at 09:57:02:

Dave wrote on 06/29/16 at 09:22:45:

...but where is 6,500 rpm documented as the Official Suzuki approved redline?

It is the maximum recommended engine speed in the owner's manual.

OK....my bikes have all been used....and didn't come with an owners manual. (How are your supposed to know when you reach 6,500 rpm without a factory tachometer?)

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #11 - 06/29/16 at 10:23:18 You can get an owners manual in the tech section, find it in the index. Factory tach... ROFLMAO
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #12 - 06/29/16 at 14:07:36 It's time to change gears when you feel the acceleration drop off. Redline schmedline, the Get there Now is changing gears and staying in the power that is accelerating you. It will tell you when to change gears.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5099 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #13 - 06/29/16 at 15:15:15 1st redline,2nd redline,3rd redline,4th redline,5th redline,slowdown for curves ,back on the throttle,brakes good,tires fair, lines on the road look like dots , telephone poles look like a picket fence Now yer cookin with Gas !!
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Engine/bike speed through the gears Reply #14 - 06/29/16 at 15:35:45 I didn't know that the point of the throttle was to test the connecting rod. I thought it was to bring the engine to max power that translates into acceleration and then grab a gear. If Redlines are the goal you're going to be looking at brake lights.
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