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Reply #15 - 06/27/16 at 08:17:32
 
Vortec the batteries you see in boats are usually deep cycle and can be run flat and recharged ,when compared to motorcycle batteries we"re talking apples and oranges.
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Reply #16 - 06/27/16 at 08:40:48
 
batman wrote on 06/27/16 at 08:17:32:
Vortec the batteries you see in boats are usually deep cycle and can be run flat and recharged ,when compared to motorcycle batteries we"re talking apples and oranges.



Very good point.  Thank you.

I found something interesting here:  http://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us/support/faqs

"If an OPTIMA battery is deeply discharged (below 10.5 volts), most basic chargers will not supply a charge. Also keep in mind that an OPTIMA battery will not recharge properly if treated as a regular flooded or gel battery. To charge the battery, you can wire a second fully charged automotive battery (12+volts) to the discharged AGM in parallel (+ to + and – to –). Then hook up the charger to the deeply discharged battery, setting the charger at 10 parallel_charging_illustration_edit.gifamps. Leave for two hours, monitoring frequently. During this process, if the discharged battery gets very hot or if it is venting (hissing sound from vents), then stop this process immediately. When the discharged battery reaches 10.5 volts or more, remove the standard battery and continue charging the AGM until fully charged.

For normal charging, a relatively low current, such as one or two amps, can work well, but when the battery has been deeply discharged, some sulfation of the battery plates may have occurred. If you charge at 10 amps, the higher current will help to break up this sulfation.

If you have an automatic charger, let it run until the charger indicates charging is complete. If you have a manual charger, you can get a rough estimate of the charging time in hours of a completely discharged battery (11.2 volts) by multiplying the capacity (amp hours or Ah) of the battery by 1.2. If your battery is not completely discharged, the time would be less.

In most cases these steps will recover an AGM battery. It’s OK for the AGM battery to get slightly warm during the charging process. If it’s hot to the touch, it means there’s a short and the process should be discontinued."
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Reply #17 - 06/27/16 at 09:22:04
 
ok, i wonder how many of us have done this as i have .i will try to come up with a fix after i get new battery.any and all ideas welcome. to switch gears what was the mfgr thinking of giving us this great feature? i can see it being a bonus if you could not remove the key.  Angry
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Reply #18 - 06/27/16 at 09:37:16
 
hotprops wrote on 06/27/16 at 09:22:04:
ok, i wonder how many of us have done this as i have .i will try to come up with a fix after i get new battery.any and all ideas welcome. to switch gears what was the mfgr thinking of giving us this great feature? i can see it being a bonus if you could not remove the key.  Angry



100% agreed.  My wife has done this several times and it is a truly annoying non-value-added "feature".

Does anybody know if the ignition will fire when bump-starting with a dead battery?
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Reply #19 - 06/27/16 at 09:44:10
 
VortecCPI wrote on 06/27/16 at 09:37:16:
Does anybody know if the ignition will fire when bump-starting with a dead battery?


It's gotta have something.
In dire circumstances, I've disconnected the headlight and got it to start.
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Reply #20 - 06/27/16 at 09:49:00
 
VortecCPI wrote on 06/27/16 at 09:37:16:
100% agreed.  My wife has done this several times and it is a truly annoying non-value-added "feature".


I believe it's a EU mandated function.

simplest fix would be to replace the affected tail light with LED.
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Reply #21 - 06/27/16 at 09:53:39
 
Usually people step in a bear trap once or twice and learn.
Odds are that the negative consequences of this single event will sear enough pain receptors in the budgetary and Ohh, Dang what a Hassle areas of the brain to keep it from ever happening again. I'd stick a battery in and ride.
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Reply #22 - 06/27/16 at 17:14:31
 
Verslagen is right. Many European countries require a light while parked. Just disable that part of the ignition switch or wiring harness.
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Reply #23 - 06/28/16 at 12:05:57
 
Kris, that's what i want to do but cant figure it out on this year bike .bear trap or not it will happen again .Versa good idea but i have a flasher on the brake light ,and it is looking for more resistance than a led can provide.
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Reply #24 - 06/28/16 at 12:13:30
 
You can attach a Stop to the switch externally. A stub of hard wire Jb welded on the lock cylinder and something that it will hit, stopping it , keeping it from turning to Park Lamp.
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