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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Spoke wrenches? 04/10/16 at 00:58:57 I was looking at tire tools, and I came across some spoke wrenches. By the way, what size spoke wrenches do we need to adjust our spokes, both front and rear?
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hotprops Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 180 fort myers fl	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #1 - 04/10/16 at 08:49:16 6mm
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #2 - 04/10/16 at 10:26:12 Thanks! Both front and rear, and 6mm even I assume? There are a ridiculous number of sizes in between 6 and 7 mm. By the way, why wouldn't a plain 6 mm open-end wrench work? Is the back of the jaw more square or something, or is it actually a different size? I remember reading that you specifically need spoke wrenches or something.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #3 - 04/10/16 at 11:23:44 Ya know, you COULD just try a wrench and SEE. Wouldn't that be quicker, easier and absolutely no way to be wrong? You still have not managed to reply to my other replies to your problems. Based on everything I have seen, just about the last thing you need to do is start twisting on the spokes.
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #4 - 04/10/16 at 20:57:23 How do you know your spokes need adjusting? Have you tried the "twang/thunk" test? You can hear a loose spoke. They don't need to be adjusted real often. I used a crescent wrench on my 10-speeds for years. I haven't tried it on the S40. It should work though.
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chzeckmate Serious Thumper Offline Be the person your dog thinks you are Posts: 514 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #5 - 04/11/16 at 00:28:54 Why are you looking at tire tools? You just want to have some in the chest or do you have a reason for looking?
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #6 - 04/11/16 at 08:27:50 Working on my tires. Just something to have just in case. Haven't checked the spokes yet.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #7 - 04/11/16 at 08:31:34 aven't checked the spokes yet. Somehow I already knew that.
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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #8 - 04/11/16 at 08:35:30 do not start your edjumacation on spoke rims with your MC, get a bicycle rim, learn to true on that only when you can true properly should you even thing of truing your MC rims
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #9 - 04/11/16 at 16:12:09 To me, truing a rim and getting all the spokes just right is about as time-consuming and frustrating as setting up a differential. Don't touch 'em unless you have to!
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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #10 - 04/13/16 at 10:08:59 that's why I really prefer mags, they might not 'look the part' but they don't have spokes to worry about, and no tubes to pinch
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Reply #11 - 04/14/16 at 12:41:15

Got my spoke wrench today. It wiggles a little on the spokes. Made me wonder whether or not it takes a 6.0 or a 5.8 or something. Undecided

Anyway, I struck some of the front spokes with the wrench, and, in musical terms, it sounds like the pitch may be apart somewhere near a semitone. Is that a substantial amount of difference in tightness?

And, if anyone remembers my post on the front tire wear, I played with the front wheel (still tightened with brake caliper on), and while there may be a little dirt on the tire to throw things off, I suspect that the fellow who mounted and balanced that tire didn't try very hard to get it right Roll Eyes

as I can detect an imbalance. If I set the tire in a certain position, it will roll backwards. When I spin it, it tends (not always) to settle to a certain area where the valve core and lead weight are somewhere near the bottom.

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Reply #12 - 04/14/16 at 14:27:55

Get the wheel off the ground. Get a wire and put it securely on a block of wood. Adjust the wire to be close to the edge of the rim.
Rotate the wheel slowly, watch the gap between wire and rim.

Typing the rest of the How to decide what to do is too much.

A straight and true wheel is the goal. Getting every spoke to sing the same note isn't. Wildly varying sounds is not likely to yield a true rim,

A marker to note which areas of the rim are deflected to one side, which are going the other.

STUDY the whole rim before you adjust the first spoke.
You Can get it straight, and not on the center of the hub.

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Re: Spoke wrenches?
Reply #13 - 04/14/16 at 17:48:49

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/14/16 at 14:27:55:

Get the wheel off the ground. Get a wire and put it securely on a block of wood. Adjust the wire to be close to the edge of the rim.
Rotate the wheel slowly, watch the gap between wire and rim.

Typing the rest of the How to decide what to do is too much.

A straight and true wheel is the goal. Getting every spoke to sing the same note isn't. Wildly varying sounds is not likely to yield a true rim,

A marker to note which areas of the rim are deflected to one side, which are going the other.

STUDY the whole rim before you adjust the first spoke.
You Can get it straight, and not on the center of the hub.

Are you saying they should sing the same, BUT there's a lot more things to worry about?

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Spoke wrenches? Reply #14 - 04/14/16 at 17:50:21 A long nail works better than a wire. It isn't so flimsy.
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