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DesertRat Serious Thumper Offline I love rat bikes! Posts: 1569 Arizona	Re: EPA wants to ban all aftermarket mufflers Reply #15 - 03/25/16 at 23:16:24 r80rt wrote on 03/24/16 at 18:38:04: If it makes ya grin, there's a law against it.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: EPA wants to ban all aftermarket mufflers Reply #16 - 03/25/16 at 23:35:25 ) Running this country is supposed to be about deal making, problem solving, and reasonable compromises so that everybody is happy. So far from reality...
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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2119 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: EPA wants to ban all aftermarket mufflers Reply #17 - 03/25/16 at 23:39:57 Ok, so I'm thousands of miles away and unfamiliar with your systems, but the "cash for clunker" was, as far as I'm aware, successfully opposed by the Sema organisation. OK so www.sema.org
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: EPA wants to ban all aftermarket mufflers Reply #18 - 03/25/16 at 23:51:31 No, it happened. People traded in cars that they were Planning on trading in a year or two later. New cars left the lot, then, a downturn followed. It's just another example of government trying to accomplish something. Phhhht, they should all go on vacation and stay.
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Reply #19 - 03/26/16 at 05:52:54

jcstokes wrote on 03/25/16 at 23:39:57:

Ok, so I'm thousands of miles away and unfamiliar with your systems, but the "cash for clunker" was, as far as I'm aware, successfully opposed by the Sema organisation. OK so www.sema.org

The cash for clunkers certainly happened in this area. Cars/trucks were traded in that qualified, and I was told (didn't witness it myself), that the dealer was required to add something to the oil and start the engine......then let the engine run until it seized so the car could never be used again.

Although I would not support a ban on all aftermarket exhaust systems - I would support a plan like some states have that require reasonable limits on how loud a street driven motorcycle can be (or car/truck/semi). It doesn't make any sense for the DOT to set sound limits on new vehicles that adds a lot of money to what a new bike costs (have you seen how complex the mufflers are on new bikes?)......then the new owner spends hundreds of dollars just to replace it with something really loud. My wife and I went hiking in the Blueridge/Cherohola area of TN, and we could be 3 miles away from the road and hear the Harley's with open pipes bellowing up the road.

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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2683 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: EPA wants to ban all aftermarket mufflers Reply #20 - 03/26/16 at 07:28:50 They made the stuff right here in Rochester NY. Castle is a company based here that manufactures all sorts of automotive and industrial chemicals. Brake cleaner, carb cleaner, penetrating oil, spray lubes, carpet and upholstery cleaners etc. https://pubs.acs.org/cen/business/87/8732bus3.html
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Reply #21 - 03/26/16 at 11:29:10

Cash For Clunkers Cars Killed Using Sodium Silicate - Business ...
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Aug 3, 2009 - All this car-killing, in turn, is driving the price of old engines and parts through the roof (for people who ...
What Happens to Traded-In Cars in Cash for Clunkers? - TIME
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Aug 4, 2009 - The cash-for-clunkers program is plenty messy even ... What Happens to the Clunkers Traded In? ... Dealers then turn the car on and rev the engine to let the ... any leftover parts must be destroyed, and the government is ...
Just a reminder: Cash for Clunkers requires destroying perfectly ...
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Aug 1, 2009 - The Cash for Clunkers program is stupid for a lot of reasons. ... A perfectly good and useful machine destroyed for political .... The video of the Volvo engine being ruined

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: EPA wants to ban all aftermarket mufflers Reply #22 - 03/26/16 at 19:38:25 Goes beyond the exhaust http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/48/4894.asp
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