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Reply #1 - 03/05/16 at 21:13:36
 
a cabal site
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Reply #2 - 03/05/16 at 22:04:55
 
some strange connections made on that site, some quite a stretch, others I have researched in the past and still others should shock the sh!t outta people.
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Reply #3 - 03/06/16 at 06:15:04
 
Griffin wrote the book on the Federal Reserve. He may not be perfect in his findings, but has clearly got a much more complete understanding of How it really works than the average person whose beliefs about how money is created, how the system works and what the damage it does to the people really is are just beliefs based in the information doled out by agencies controlled By the system.

Dismissing the site as a cabal site? Choosing to ignore the information that, when used to see the world Through that lens, brings clarity and understanding,is your choice. The day Will come when it will be impossible to ignore the game we have been subjected to.

Once again, Henry Ford, great industrialist, said that the People would revolt if they understood how the monetary system actually worked. And, Griffin DID the homework and wrote an expose' detailing the mechanisms by which dollars are created by a CABAL of banking interests.
The countries that we have invaded were sovereign nations NOT using that central banking system.
What you don't know can't hurt you
Well, that is not true.
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Reply #4 - 03/06/16 at 06:43:20
 
JOG, what type of system are you for?

Can you elaborate how you think currency would be fair and just to all?

How would we exchange goods abroad ( trade ) ?

How would it be managed and regulated to ensure fraud, etc?

I want YOUR take, that whats makes this site  fun, not cut and paste and homework  Grin
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Reply #5 - 03/06/16 at 13:06:16
 
raydawg, I do my homework for college courses. The professors call them research projects or case studies. I find all kinds of wild nuts to insert into these assignments, and guess what, the majority of the professors can see through the lenses presented by Justin.
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Reply #6 - 03/06/16 at 15:51:57
 
I don't know how to make a fair, just, honest system. That's gonna take a bunch of smart, honest people. I'm just trying to get people to wake up and realize that the system, as it is, is designed to suck the marrow out of the People.
Life Isn't fair. Winners and losers are a reality. But to live under a system that favors one tiny segment of society is simply not RIGHT, nor is it what we were given by the Founding Fathers.

IF you go digging, and it Really takes some digging, you can find that the most prosperous times were Between the times when we had a central bank.

Yes, there were economic booms and busts. More digging will point a finger at interest rate manipulation to control the money supply.

Is there a perfect system? I don't know. But, I don't have to know the Correct answer in order to know that the one I have been Told is the answer, is Wrong.

I'm not pretending to have the answer. I'm just trying to get people to understand that we have been lied to.
Again, how much of a Fool was Henry Ford?
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Reply #7 - 03/07/16 at 08:11:09
 
Look JOG, nothing in LIFE is fair.....

I know it sounds flippant, but we must accept reality, first, before we can begin to even think about fixing anything.

Let me give you an example of 'fairness" and how it works....

My wife needed/wanted a new car. It has been 11 years since she bought her last one, so yesterday we went a shopping.

Since we take credit very seriously, both our scores are over 800.
We had the dealers bidding over each other on the final considerations.
The dealers close at 6 PM, we inked at 9.

I bought a brand new car with LIFETIME power train warranty - 3 years maintenance, 84 months bumper to bumper coverage ( lots of computer stuff on it ).......

ZERO down, and an interest rate lower than what my interest earning checking account pays me.....

Why.....because we play by the rules. We pay our bills.
We reap the benefits.

That is fair Jog, ain't it?
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Reply #8 - 03/07/16 at 08:20:39
 
raydawg wrote on 03/07/16 at 08:11:09:
That is fair Jog, ain't it?

Depends on the car,.. what color is it?... Grin
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Reply #9 - 03/07/16 at 10:46:30
 
Serowbot wrote on 03/07/16 at 08:20:39:
raydawg wrote on 03/07/16 at 08:11:09:
That is fair Jog, ain't it?

Depends on the car,.. what color is it?... Grin


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Reply #10 - 03/07/16 at 12:11:38
 
Of COURSE it's fair. You've dedicated your labors and dealt honorably and have developed a Proven track record that makes You Desirable to the lenders. You Earned the better treatment than the underemployed young guy who hasbusted apartment lease agreements on his record. That's FAIR. Just because it's not the same for everyone doesn't make it unfair.
There is a reason why the podium at the Olympics has three distinct platforms. Winners are supposed to be honored above losers.
Unfair is unequal opportunity. And, until people understand how the monetary system works, they don't know that it isn't equal opportunity.
The left see fair as
Equal results.
Never gonna happen.
But, I don't see inner city youth as having even Close to equal opportunity.
Too bad most of them lack the pioneer spirit and go see k opportunity. Why should they? They have been told how much society owes them. They are deserving, entitled, and waiting for the freebies.
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Reply #11 - 03/07/16 at 12:28:21
 
But, I don't see inner city youth as having even Close to equal opportunity.
Too bad most of them lack the pioneer spirit and go see k opportunity. Why should they? They have been told how much society owes them. They are deserving, entitled, and waiting for the freebies.

Schooling, trade, learning, WITHOUT the social political strings attached, just plain old marketability of skills and the ability to exercise it....

As I said before, no one in this world, where we compete, gives a ratz arse, that Debbie has two Mommies......
Our schools have been utilized to do the job of parenting ( for many different reasons ) that won't yield sustainable education for the masses.
I told you of a true story by a high school superintendent, who told me they have to spend 10, 20, at times, 50% more on certain mandated programs, than on one, "normal" student.
And the real kicker is these kids lack any real capacity to learn, or use, or even a need, for this education....

But again, its to make things seem, FAIR......

Ain't no such thing, I am afraid, even if Oprah says otherwise or hopes for  Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - 03/07/16 at 14:16:05
 
Hiring a million dollar a year track coach isn't likely to get the kid with asthma and one leg into the Olympics. Using common sense, assessing abilities, bringing people Up to their potential, that is reasonable. But the punks and thugs who have no desire to learn and actually bully the kids who are doing well.
The desire to create equal Outcomes has been a horrific mistake.
As an oilfield worker, my boss offered me a trip to Texas Tech, he said that I would be a good teacher. I agree, I would, I just didn't Want to. I liked Working.
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Reply #13 - 03/13/16 at 15:20:53
 
JOG I will call you out on that last comment..if you think teachers do not work, your head is so far up your butt it is lost to the world.

At any level, teaching is tough work.  Keeping young people focused for any length of time is just plain fitful work.  I was never a teacher but judging from the number of great ones (a small percentage) that I encountered thru my many years of schooling ( a multi year attempt to avoid Vietnam-unsucesssfully) and the number of people who don't see the parallels of Trump to Uncle Adolf, well I will rest my case.  

One liner slams are almost always unfair and inaccurate - and the idea that teachers don't work is just a fallacy.   Wink  Rantet over.
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Reply #14 - 03/13/16 at 19:16:07
 
If you don't understand the difference in the KIND of work I was talking about, it's your Choice. If you believe I need to explain that I know that teachers work, but why that Kind of work doesn't appeal to me, your head is where you accuse me of having mine.
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