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Reply #15 - 12/27/15 at 15:50:24
 
Webb lost me right here:

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[b]"[b]Clinton should be called to account for her inept leadership that brought about the chaos in Libya," Webb posted on his Facebook page Saturday. “Our next commander in chief must define a strategic vision for the country and accept accountability for past actions.”[/b][/b]


UMMMM, so WHO'S accountable? Past? Present? Future?
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Reply #16 - 12/27/15 at 16:03:04
 
Accountability for past actions vs. "What difference does it make now?"
As Harry Truman said "The buck stops here."
You and I may take responsibility (accountability) for our actions, but we seem to be part of an ever shrinking minority.
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Reply #17 - 12/27/15 at 16:16:14
 
old.indian wrote on 12/27/15 at 16:03:04:
You and I may take reasonability (accountability) for our actions, but we seem to be part of an ever shrinking minority.

I don't,.. I blame the dog...  (...and I don't have a dog)... Undecided
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Reply #18 - 12/27/15 at 16:22:47
 
Interesting statement, ’Trump worth 3B, and if did nothing would be worth 8B.’.

Some people are born on 3rd base, ( as PG said), so that is a reason, to dislike them?

Take a example, of 4 people, who have inherited a whole lot of money.
1. A person does nothing, just buys bonds, etc, and lives off the intrust.
2. A Person, gives it all away, piece by piece.
3. A person puts it all up his/her nose.
4. A person, risks it. A person works with it.

Now, which one, of those 4.  
Employs, Several Thousands of other people, who pay taxes, (so that would exclude #3, 2, 1,). Which one, WORKS, to do things.  Which One ???

Ya wanna dish the ultra-rich, How about  Gates, he made  BILLIONS, in making Software,  OBSOLETE, after a couple of years, so you had to BUY NEW, From HIM !  He, STOLE, Software, that was Not licensed/copyrighted, changed it a , ‘little’, then, licensed/copyrighted it, and made Billions.  (Time-Works = Works),   (GEM = Windows), (Visa-comp=Excel), (D-Base=Access)  Etc, etc, etc,    But that is perfectly OK.

(And the list goes On , and ON, and ON)

Bankruptcy:    Trump, Used, the current  LAW, and now, is ‘dished for it’.

How about the person, 3 weeks ago, in front of me when I went to the Liqueur store to by a case of beer.   He pulled out a CC, it was Denied, he did another one, it was Denied, he did another one, it was Denied.
(He did this,   FIFTEEN TIMES !!!!!     15 Times, 15 CC’s, maxed out!)

Then, he was OUT of CC’s,  (15 Of them  MAXED OUT),  so he reached into his pocket, puled out $30.00 Cash, and said:   “Guess it is time to file Bankruptcy,  AGAIN”     !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, But his actions are  Perfectly, OK.  ????

A Person went to School, for a degree in: ‘business’.  Great, Lots of hard work.

Now let’s equate that, to lets say a person who went to school to be a  ‘Welder’.
In, ‘Welding’ school, one learned about, the Steels, the Carbon content, the thickness, the correct rod, Containing the Correct content of steel, the correct Watt/Amp, to make THE  Correct Bead, and ‘Weld.”.   Etc Etc.  Now, a GREAT, “‘BASE”, to, Learn from.    One has been taught the BASIC, Fundamentals.

Now here it is 11 PM. You have your portable welder,  A Piece of equipment has broken down,  the person hiring you, HAS to get their thing , ‘Welded’, to be able to Finish, (Gathering the crops), .  It is starting to rain, it is dark, you don’t know, ‘Exactly’ what that the steel that piece is made of.  Your  Goal,  ‘Weld that piece, so it will Hold/Work”.

It is called,   "REAL   LIFE "

Will you Fail or  Succeed ?????  Depends on how much attention you paid in class, and how much, MORE, Information, you went out and Got,  YOURSELF !

So, Trump, using a, ’Tool’,   Just like,  the DIF with 15 CC’s  MAXED out,
One is, ‘bad’, and one is, ‘OK’, depending on which ‘base’ you were born on?????????
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Reply #19 - 12/27/15 at 17:17:22
 
MnSpring, he over-leveraged, brags about it and lather rinse repeat.

I will say this, HE IS STEALING FROM INVESTORS by doing this over and over again. Is it okay because corporate law says it's okay? Or is it capitalism? Law of the Jungle? Eat or be eaten?

Personal BK laws do NOT allow this.

He is NOT the type of person I would want in any type of leadership position. Worship at his alter all you want. I bow to no man!
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Reply #20 - 12/27/15 at 17:26:15
 
pg wrote on 12/27/15 at 14:00:40:
Yes it is true, he was born on third base and had every opportunity presented before him.  Regarding the bankruptcies, what do you know about the gaming industry? - Best regards,



here's a little data on the gambling industry model here in the US:
https://www.quora.com/Gambling/How-do-casinos-ultimately-make-money
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Reply #21 - 12/27/15 at 21:15:24
 
I have worked in the gaming industry for 11 years; although, not on the casino floor.  I can tell you why his casinos failed if you care to know.

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Reply #22 - 12/27/15 at 22:22:41
 
I would welcome any insight into how a casino could fail.
Wait,, divorce, wife spending billions before divorce?
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Reply #23 - 12/28/15 at 05:55:12
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/27/15 at 22:22:41:
I would welcome any insight into how a casino could fail.


There's a lot more behind the scenes that nobody sees.  Casinos were a destination activity with Las Vegas starting in the 30s and Atlantic city in the late 70s.  For a lot of years they made more money than they could could; although, those days are over.   The bankruptcy of Harrah's & Caesars this year solidified that fact.  A couple years ago their were about 1,500 casinos in the US, a far cry from days of mob run vegas.  

Atlantic CIty failed because roughly ¼ of the country's GDP was a comfortable drive from the Casinos when they were built.  Today, you can go across the Delaware river and Philadelphia has four, New York has multiple, Connecticut, Maryland, so on so forth offers gaming.   Many states offer some form gaming and nearly every federally recognized Tribe has gaming as well.  

On average a slot machine pays out 94% for every dollar put in.  The average hold on table games is 17%.  The odds are in the houses favor; although, they have to fight for every dollar now.

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Reply #24 - 12/28/15 at 08:23:29
 
Here is our casino, the tribe I am a member of.

http://www.downstreamcasino.com/

I can tell you it is the biggest employer in the area. Not only that it has spent millions on helping others in need.
If you care to read about its success, it truly is an amazing story.

I can remember going to the summer pow-wows.
All we had for income was a gas station and tobacco store  Grin
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Reply #25 - 12/28/15 at 19:10:26
 
DesertRat wrote on 12/27/15 at 17:17:22:
" ... Personal BK laws do NOT allow this. '''"!


You have a house you live in. You re-re-mortgage it, then re- mortgage it, then re-mortgage it.
Then you buy New Cars/Trucks/Boats/Snowmobiles/Moterhomes/Trailers/SxS’s/Motorcycles, etc. etc. etc.
ALL On a Minimum down payment, (because you had some cash for the, Re-re-re-Morgrages on your house).
You max out ALL, your CC’s.

Now, you can’t make all those payments.   What do you do?
 You File Bankruptcy !

You Get your House for, FREE, and One car/truck, for FREE.
Give up ALL the, ’toys’, to a Auction.  (But before you do this, you drill holes in the bottom of the boats, you run any ICE out of oil, and disable everything, ANY way you can).

 Then ?    You start over !   Within in 6 months, you are FLOODED, with CC offers, Re Finance your house, and Do It AGAIN !
At the  EXPENSE of  EVERYONE ELSE, that has a car/house/toys/etc. because as the company that sold that item, got, 'stiffed', they just raised the price to  EVERYONE else. (So Who, Paid ?)

DesertRat, you have spent a long time going through School.  But, you NOW, need to LEARN, how the, ‘REAL WORLD’ works.

I sold my first piece of Real-estate, (a house for, 2.500.00 when I was 16)   Many years later,  ‘had’ to get a, ‘License’.   So went to the License ‘class’, learned the, ‘book’, to take the test from. Then, needed to do, X hours of, ‘class’, per year.   The FIRST CLASS, the instructor, held up the, ‘BOOK’ we had to learn to pass the test, (and paid 25.00 for),   and said: “This Book, you learned from, to pass your test, is WORTHLESS.   (Then he threw it into a garbage can).   Here I will teach you, what the, ‘Real World’, is like.”

A number of years ago, (each year had to, take a, ‘cass’, and have x amount of hours).  I did my, ‘class’, for the hours.
(their was no pass or fail, it was just, hours in a ‘class’)
I sat in the back, with my cup of coffee and the newspaper each day. the Instructor, (looked like she was 12, but I am sure she was at least 18). Went around the class and asked each person, ‘ Why are you here’.  I responded:  “To Get My Hours”. Then went back to the paper.  At the End of the class, she passed out a, ’test’, (Which was for her benefit, it was NOT required). I was bored, so I took the, ’test’. I had the highest Score. And I just read the newspaper, and drank coffee for the last 40 hours.  She Just could NOT understand it!

(And, there were   SEVERAL, 'companies', who if you just Paid them, would send you a 'certificate', that you went through their, 'Class', and got the hours.)

So, DesertRat,  you have got, (if you studied)  a Very good BASE. Now, start, Learning.
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