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Reply #45 - 12/24/15 at 05:46:55
 

Did not want to move to Renosa, nor did I want to move to Taiwan or China a few years after that.

It's sad, the ones that did take these horrible horrible moves got let go in a few years after the smart native language speakers got up to speed on their jobs.

It's funny, back in the late 80's I was there doing Southern Ports Receiving Inspection and product audits for the very first Taiwanese Black and Decker brand named rip off products coming into America.  Yep, B&D quickly learned they could buy a competent rip off of drill press or bench grinder far far cheaper than they could make one in the USA.  Really, all they needed was education in the quality levels Americans required and what UL meant.

Now China and Taiwan build EVERYTHING and have evolved into very competent industrial nations.

I guess I am an ongoing expert on change, having seen so much of it and finding it so fascinating to watch it unfold.
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Reply #46 - 12/24/15 at 06:13:37
 

You see, that thinking about PC being all that different is what is going to kill MS.  

Yes, PC is able to do any of it, but .... it is awkward and overly complicated for doing MUCH of it.

If you are doing CAD or graphics design, you need a PC.

If you are doing journalistic reporting you need a 2 in 1 tablet or a laptop and you need to carry a phone with a good camera on it.

JOG can tell you what you need to have just to post on Suzukisavage.com.

And reporting net searches for PC only is sorta silly, when most net searches happen off of phones now days.

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Reply #47 - 12/25/15 at 06:48:06
 

http://liliputing.com/2015/12/fujitsu-is-spinning-off-pc-and-phone-divisions-...

Fujitsu is spinning off PC and phone divisions as new companies

Earlier this month we’d heard rumors that Fujitsu, Toshiba, and VAIO were planning to combine their PC businesses to create a new company.   It’s not yet clear if today’s announcement means that’s not happening… or if it’s the first step toward the creation of that new combined company.   Toshiba has just cut 6,800 people from computing and put its computer portion in a separate movable bucket as well, so they too could be making moves to combine their ailing PC portion with Fujitsu and VAIO as per this rumor.

But what is clear is that PC in Japan is "sick to dying" and that it is pulling down the big Japanese electronics Conglomerate Corporation's bottom lines and that simply isn't acceptable in Japan.   Time to amputate .....

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Reply #48 - 12/25/15 at 07:20:54
 

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3017791/microsoft-windows/windows-10-update-...

Windows 10 update KB 3124200 and Office update 6366



Microsoft turned loose another turd patch set this past Thursday, just in time to break a lot of PCs over the Christmas holidays.   The smoke has settled a bit and folks now realize there were TWO bad patches in the patch set that was pushed out in the middle of Thursday night, Windows 10 update KB 3124200 and Office update 6366.   Each caused a different set of items to crash and die.


What's wrong with the Win 10 Update #KB 3124200

"Radu Tyrsina at Windowsreport has amassed a list of more than a dozen problems with KB 3124200, including the following:

Install failures, which have become very common with cumulative updates. Usually, but not always, frozen installations can be fixed by installing the patch manually.
File Explorer, Calculator, Store, Calendar, and/or Maps won’t work.
Outlook won’t open.
Errors 0x80242fff, 0x8007000d.
Installation failures are particularly bothersome on Windows 10 machines because Windows Update continues to slam its head against the wall, downloading and installing the impossible patch over and over again.



What's wrong with Office update 6366

"At the same time, Microsoft has released Office update 6366, which wipes out your Word customizations. Somehow the installer takes it upon itself to rename the Normal.dotm file to Normal15Pre.dotm, NormalOld.dotm, and/or Normal.dotm.old.

That may sound like a minor problem, but it effectively breaks nearly any customization you have in Word. AutoText entries, macros, default template settings such as margins and fonts, custom styles, envelope return addresses, autocorrect and autoformat settings, and much more get trashed".



Having pissed off all of American Business, MS comes out with an update to fix the mess.

Microsoft has a new article, KB 3129969, that steps you through the process of fixing the problems introduced by Office update 6366.


It is becoming clear that MS is not in control of its software update system any longer, and that MS's Blundergate has become a repeated, repeated, repeated, (wash and repeat) repeated issue now that MS has restructured itself under the new Win 10 automatic nightly update system.   MS is shredding its image nightly.

Win 10 is now being judged "not suitable for business use any longer".    Business will stick firmly with Win 7 and freeze all of MS Win 10 efforts from entering their business space.

Win 10 just failed ---- it will be a while before this is realized but nobody wants the endless Blundergate that comes with it.
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Reply #49 - 12/27/15 at 10:15:28
 
I have to agree.  If it's a behemoth and still functions substantially as it should, people will use it especially if you market it like they're getting something for nothing. (free upgrade to Windows 10)

This update that broke Word probably just super-pissed-off 90% of the big corporate management in the country.  Very, very few are so isolated from the day to day that they don't have a secretary doing documents, presentations and letters for them all the time. You can believe when the secretary says it will be several hours or maybe a couple days to get a document because Microsoft's latest update just trashed all his custom letter, presentation, email, and document formats, the big guy will take notice.  You don't mess with a company's productivity and get away with it.

If Microsoft made a backup of the file and if it's relatively easy to find and restore, it might alleviate some of the pain.  But, they have just served up notice to all the BIG decision makers that we can f(*k up at any time and possibly cost you tens of thousands of man-hours to repair our damage. And, if you restore your backups to get things working again, we'll just trash it again tonight when we reapply the "patch" that broke everything since it's no longer on your systems.

You may be right.  This might be a big enough screw-up actually begin Microsoft's death throws. If a company can't count on its tools, it will get better tools. Time spent repairing/reworking unreliable tools is time lost from work, lost productivity, and directly affects the bottom line.
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Reply #50 - 12/27/15 at 14:19:02
 

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/block-aggressive-windows-10-upgrade-windows-7-8-1/

Pundits begin talking about the need to BLOCK Windows 10 aggressively.



As the Windows 10 adoption rate is slowing down, Microsoft ramps up its efforts to make users upgrade. Come 2016, many people will wake up to a new operating system, despite never having consciously consented to the upgrade. Even those of you who have previously removed updates and installed tools to block the Get Windows 10 app (GWX) could be affected.

We show you what’s going on and how to push back and hold on to Windows 7 or 8.

What’s Happening in Windows Land?

Over the Thanksgiving weekend, users of GWX Control Panel, a tool designed to remove the Get Windows 10 app, reported that the “AllowOSUpgrade” setting was being switched on automatically. “It keeps re-setting iself at least once a day if [users] switch it back off,” developer Josh Mayfield told Computerworld.

Apparently, Microsoft has been re-issuing the update that installs GWX with different binary files, which makes it look like a new update. Moreover, Microsoft has applied changes to Windows Update in Windows 7 and 8.1.

This update enables support for additional upgrade scenarios from Windows 7 to Windows 10, and provides a smoother experience when you have to retry an operating system upgrade because of certain failure conditions. This update also improves the ability of Microsoft to monitor the quality of the upgrade experience. –Microsoft Support
Mayfield suspects that Microsoft is laying the groundwork for its next move. And all the evidence suggests he’s right. Microsoft is pushing the Windows 10 upgrade through Windows Update and it’s not being coy about it. In late October, Terry Myerson wrote:

We will soon be publishing Windows 10 as an “Optional Update” in Windows Update for all Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers. (…) Early next year, we expect to be re-categorizing Windows 10 as a “Recommended Update”. Depending upon your Windows Update settings, this may cause the upgrade process to automatically initiate on your device.
Such an update was erroneously published as a default update earlier this year. In September, reports surfaced that computers had been upgraded to Windows 10 over night.

Meanwhile, the Get Windows 10 notification has lost a decline option. Instead, users can choose between “Upgrade now” or “Start download, upgrade later”. Reddit user EchoRadius reports that the “upgrade later” option caused his system to upgrade quicker than expected and automatically; other users confirm similar experiences.


The trick, of course, is to simply close the app without making a choice. It’s a clever way of fooling naive users into upgrading.

Why Is Microsoft Pushing So Hard?


The Windows 10 adoption rate is slowing down, as the latest numbers from NetMarketShare demonstrate. Windows 7 (56.11%) lost around 4% of its market share since the release of Windows 10, Windows 8.1 (11.15%) dropped by 2%. From October to November, however, both Windows versions gained back market share. Meanwhile, Windows 10 (9%) is struggling to overtake Windows XP (10.59%) as the third most common Windows version. This is a disaster that Christmas sales alone are unlikely to fix.



At the current rate, Microsoft is unlikely to make its 1 Billion Windows 10 devices goal anytime soon. But that’s not its biggest problem. Windows 10 was designed to reduce costs by streamlinging updates and bring in extra money through new services. The more existing users upgrade, the more profitable Microsoft will be; it’s all about business.   If Win 10 fails to convert all of the previous users, then MS cannot make the money they need to make to stay afloat.

5 Ways to Block the Windows 10 Upgrade

We have previously shown you how to get rid of the Windows 10 upgrade notification and how to stop the automatic Windows 10 download and installation. In the meantime, additional strategies have emerged. Here we’ll briefly summarize all of them.

1. Install Third Party Software
The previously mentioned GWX Control Panel (fka GWX Stopper) can permanently remove the Get Windows 10 icon and disable the respective app. Frequent updates and a newly added “Monitor Mode” ensure that the tool will quickly catch any changes made to Windows upgrade settings and alert users. You can download GWX Control Panel here (direct download).

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GwxControlPanelSetup.exe

Likewise, I Don’t Want Windows 10 blocks GWX, however, this tool hasn’t been updated in a while to handle MS latest tricks so it is no longer recommended.

2. Take Control Over GWX Folder in System 32
This sounds more intimidating than it is. You could rename the GWX folder to remove the irritating system tray icon. At least this would prevent anyone from accidentally upgrading now or later — until an update restores the folder. Instead, change write permissions.

Briefly, open File Explorer, head to C:\Windows\System32, find the GWX folder, take ownership, delete everything in it, and Deny any users all of the security settings. Restart your computer and be done.

3. Set a Registry Key to Disable GWX
Open the registry and head to the following string:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows
Right-click Windows to create a new Key and call it GWX. Now right-click GWX and create a new DWORD Value called DisableGWX. Set its value to 1, close the registry editor, and reboot to activate the changes.

4. Disable Recommended Updates
Microsoft announced that Windows 10 will become a recommended update in 2016. Time to disable these updates, they are not essential anyway. Briefly, head to Windows Update, select Change Settings from the menu on the left, under Important updates, select Install updates automatically, and then remove the check mark under Recommended updates.



If you’re on a metered connection, you might want to disable automatic updates altogether. Note that this could make your system vulnerable to malware and malicious attacks.

5. Give Up and Install Linux

We don’t know how far Microsoft will go to make Windows 7 and 8.1 users adopt Windows 10 before the free upgrade offer expires. And while Windows 10 has many benefits and this writer enjoys working with it very much, the aggressiveness with which Microsoft is pushing the upgrade is disconcerting. If you can’t see yourself using Windows 10, maybe it’s time to move on.

Linux is a great alternative to Windows not only because it’s free. It also comes in many different flavors, some of which are very similar to Windows. Last but not least, it’s less of a target for hackers and malware. First time users upgrading from Windows might want to try Ubuntu Linux.

When Will You Give Into Windows 10?


Maybe, if Microsoft nags users long enough, they will eventually give in. The numbers indicate that this hasn’t worked so well, yet. What if Microsoft focused on making Windows 10 really great and let it speak for itself. A free upgrade alone isn’t enough.


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Reply #51 - 12/27/15 at 19:43:28
 
6; buy android / chrome powered devices and take the windows machine off the interweb completely
of course this won't work for power users, but I can totally see myself with just a tablet, especially now I live in this bitty trailer
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Reply #52 - 12/27/15 at 22:13:11
 
File a class action lawsuit against them.
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Reply #53 - 01/02/16 at 03:12:54
 

http://betanews.com/2016/01/01/despite-microsofts-increasingly-aggressive-tac...

Despite Microsoft's increasingly aggressive tactics, Windows 10's growth continues to slow



The slowing of growth for the new OS is quite clear. In September, Windows 10 grew by 1.42 percentage points, in October it grew by 1.31 and in November it increased its share by 1.06 percentage points. As we saw, in December the new OS grew by 0.96 percent. For an operating system that’s not only free but being pushed ever more forcefully onto users, that trend has to be a worry for Microsoft.

Most other versions of Windows lost share in December. Windows 8 went from 2.88 percent to 2.76 percent for a decline of 0.12 percentage points. Windows 8.1 went from 11.15 to 10.30 for a drop of 0.85. With both flavors combined, the tiled OS now stands on 13.06 percent, down 0.97 percentage points.

Windows 7 remains by far and away the most popular operating system with 55.68 percent of the market, dropping just 0.43 percentage points in the month.



GWX Control Panel is up to rev. 1.7 now with even better counter moves for MS's attempts to cram Win 10 on to the now strongly preferred (relatively stable and well behaved) Windows 7 machines.

Microsoft's underhanded coercive tactics have backfired on them
and a majority of the un-infected users are actively resisting MS's Win 10 big push now.

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http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

Venturebeat makes a point that "Windows in total" is now losing market share to both Apple and Linux.   The percentages are small and ARE within the "standard sampling error" size range, but still, folks are noticing this ongoing trend and are reporting it now.

"On the whole, Windows slipped 0.07 points to 91.32 percent in December. Those losses were, of course, direct gains for Mac OS X and Linux, which were up 0.03 points and 0.04 points to 7.02 percent and 1.66 percent, respectively."


Run your slider over and see that Linux is now bigger than Windows Vista, which was another year's end surprise.    Stat counter is only listing pure 100% Linux boxes in these numbers, as any dual boot machine gets listed as a Windows box as the primary boot partition gets used as "defining the machine".    

Also please note that Chrome OS is not being reported in these displayed numbers at all, as MS pays $$$ to have statistics vendors like StatCounter to ignore ChromeOS in their published "PC information".
   Remember, to MS ChromeOS is not a real OS, the pawnshop guys say so.

Listing Chromebooks off over there in mobile (or not at all) is just one of MS's dirty tricks intended to keep misleading the purchasing public into thinking MS is still the big industry monolith that they so drastically ARE NOT ANY MORE.  

Example:  iPhones by themselves dwarf this Windows pie volume, and what does that say about the Android phones pie volume?   A comparison to anything other than themselves is deadly to MS, so they pay out bribe money to avoid this happening.





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Reply #54 - 01/02/16 at 06:36:58
 
If you can't Give it away, maybe it sux,,
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Reply #55 - 01/02/16 at 07:40:02
 
Big pie!....  Huh
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Reply #56 - 01/02/16 at 10:34:02
 
 
Looks impressive, doesn't it?

Just remember that in the overall world of "all computing devices" this is one of the smaller pies -- for example the yearly Apple iOS pie for the iPhone sales is LARGER than the entire Windows PC pie (including over 10 years of PC sales).

Just three months of Android devices sales make a bigger pie than this Windows pie.   And because of the competition growing so much faster the Windows pie is actually SHRINKING 6-10% year on year on year.   This is absolute real lost units shrinkage on top of relative shrinkage, so it is bad when considered either way.

MS has spent money over the years to make this false impression -- by getting all dual boot Linux rigs to show up as MS machines and by excluding ChromeOS devices basically from all displayed pies everywhere.

Why are the pies you see so misleading?   For the last few years Chromebooks have outsold Windows laptops in about 1/3 of the months, but Chromebooks are still COMPLETELY INVISIBLE on all these charts, not listed at all simply because MS wants it that way.  

Microsoft likes to "compare PC" as them being all of PC (and only adding in Mac desktops and the "Linux only" boxes because it looks so good for them).  

A nice false MS centric world view where they (MS) are a strong winner still.

And, since MS is paying for the charts to be put together, well .......

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Reply #57 - 01/03/16 at 09:39:57
 

It is the new year.    

You were told this was coming, right?   The proper "Threat Balance" comes into play now, with MS outright lying to you and threatening you intentionally.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/01/02/microsoft-windows-7-problems/

Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has Serious Problems

“Speaking to Windows Weekly, Microsoft Marketing chief Chris Capossela explained that users who choose Windows 7 do so “at your own risk, at your own peril” and he revealed Microsoft has concerns about its future software and hardware compatibility, security and more.

We do worry when people are running an operating system that’s 10 years old that the next printer they buy isn’t going to work well, or they buy a new game, they buy Fallout 4, a very popular game, and it doesn’t work on a bunch of older machines,” Capossela stated. “And so, as we are pushing our ISV [Independent Software Vendor] and hardware partners to build great new stuff that takes advantage of Windows 10 that obviously makes the old stuff really bad and not to mention viruses and security problems.”

He also stressed it is “so incredibly important to try to end the fragmentation of the Windows install base” and to get users to a “safer place”.

There’s only one problem with Capossela’s statements: they are complete (BS) rubbish.

"And so, there’s no doubt with a base as big as ours, it is hard to move anyone to a new model without angering some people. We don’t want to anger anybody, but we do feel a responsibility to get people to a much better place, and Windows 10 is a much better place than Windows 7. We will always give you a way out, but we’re trying to find the right threat balance.”

This phrase – “threat balance” – is telling. Microsoft has been cranking up the pressure on Windows 7 and Windows 8 users to upgrade and, in my opinion, the ‘balance’ was replaced by ‘threat’ a long time ago due to mandatory Windows 10 downloads, automatic upgrade attempts and now Capossela’s claims which add up to nothing more than deliberate misinformation designed to unsettle users."



The fact is that Win 7 is the market leader in PC and it is the gold standard for software support and that is not going to change ANY AT ALL UNTIL YEAR 2020.

Microsoft has stalled in its grandiose plans for "1 billion PCs by 2017" and people are now actively resisting the endless blundergate of Windows 10's nightly "upgrade/update destruction".

Real people know that MS is lying to them all the time now, and that Win 7 is still the most stable and non-intrusive of any of the MS operating systems.

This is the factual actual, until MS starts REMOVING your Win 7 drivers and replacing them with Win 10 drivers, an act that will intentionally BREAK Windows 7 for you.    

And that my friends is coming soon.  Right now all my Win 7 update selections are turned off and protected/monitored by the 1.6 or better GWX Control Center with all my security, emergency, systems updates -- every last one of them is turned off -- MS does not get to touch my Win 7 installation at all unless it does something illegal to do so.



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http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/12/16/why-microsoft-said-windows...

Nothing And Everything To Lose

To understand why Microsoft has embarked upon such an aggressive update strategy you need to realize the importance of Windows 10 to the company’s entire future. In short: everything depends on it.

For all intents and purposes, right now Windows 10 is Microsoft. The operating system is Microsoft’s hail Mary pass at revitalizing the struggling PC sector, its troubled mobile devices (Surface is the bright spark here) and even in gaining greater parity in the gaming sector as Windows 10 has become the heart of the Xbox One in an attempt to increase functionality and close the sales gap on the PS4.

But this is just the start because all these factors have knock-on effects. If Microsoft gets Windows 10 onto a billion PCs then it piques the interest of app developers and the operating system has ‘universal apps’ which can then be used on Windows 10 smartphones and tablets therefore increasing their appeal as well. Ditto the Xbox One. There’s potentially a whole work/play/mobile ecosystem to rival anyone – but for it to work and crucially for it to work as fast as Microsoft wants,  it has to be forcibly kickstarted."


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Reply #58 - 01/04/16 at 08:06:16
 
Here ya go.... a link to a recent story about a new computer the author wanted to install a Linux boot partition on...
I'm sure you will like the story OF..... it is a new win10 computer.... and the author hates it! Smiley

http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-multibooting-the-acer-aspire-z3-all-in-one...
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Reply #59 - 01/05/16 at 10:19:58
 

Yup, sounds like this Win 10 machine is about as Linux unfriendly as possible on purpose, with EFI Secure Boot uglies out the buppie.

You do realize that MS can change your boot structure at will on any given nightly update once you go Win 10, right?  

What worked for you last night is ancient history, what is new today is what counts.
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