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jjthejetplane Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 164 22560 Gender:	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #30 - 09/28/15 at 07:05:28 I have three hoses sticking out of my carb. Studied the pic provided carefully. Cannot figure out what that hose is, the shorter. It's not either of the bowl vent hoses and not the vaccuum hose that feeds into the petcock. Is there a chance it's the wrong carburetor?
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jjthejetplane Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 164 22560 Gender:	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #31 - 09/28/15 at 07:12:30 This is the hos sticking out of the upper right side of the carb just below the bowl vent hose and to the left of the long gray vaccuum hose.
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Reply #32 - 09/28/15 at 07:19:16

That is a carb from a California bike withe the evaporative canister on the swing arm. Just plug that hose....you don't need it unless you also have the canister stuff.

From the photograph you posted......the idle fuel mixture plug is still in place and has not been pulled out. I don't believe you can do a good job of cleaning a carb without taking that out and removing the mixture screw.

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Reply #33 - 09/28/15 at 07:43:46

Dave wrote on 09/28/15 at 07:19:16:

From the photograph you posted......the idle fuel mixture plug is still in place and has not been pulled out. I don't believe you can do a good job of cleaning a carb without taking that out and removing the mixture screw.

Be careful with that plug and follow the instructions in the tech section to pull it.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #34 - 09/28/15 at 11:21:24 And it's delicate. Gently close it, fingertips, count and make note of the turns. That way you can get it back to where it is when you go back in.
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jjthejetplane Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 164 22560 Gender:	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #35 - 09/29/15 at 11:25:16 Hello, afternoon, I removed the plug last night. Should i remove the screw completely? Am i prepping to remove the carb and do a cleaning? The instructions say to give it a turn coynter clockwise. Don't want to act prematurely. Thanks
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Reply #36 - 09/29/15 at 11:43:53

Gently turn the screw in clockwise and count the number of complete turns. Since it has never been messed with previously....my guess is that it will be 3 turns. There is never any reason to turn the screw more than 3 turns from seated....as the small hole is completely open after 3 turns, and any more turns on the screw will not increase the fuel flow.

Then you can remove the screw and blow or flush the hole with whatever carb cleaner you are going to use.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #37 - 09/29/15 at 11:47:48 Gently turn it CW till it stops, count the number of turn and any increment thereof. How many? Then back it out 1 and a half turns. This is the standard starting point. Now lets confirm you capped the vac port and the EPA cannister port? I'd give it a spritz of starting fluid and give her a go.
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jjthejetplane Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 164 22560 Gender:	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #38 - 09/29/15 at 14:05:55 Having some difficulty turning this screw with my flathead. It's jumped the bit twice and I'm worried about stripping it. Ahould i be using something else?
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18097 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #39 - 09/29/15 at 14:17:10 Unfortunately...that is not surprising. The screw and carb body can get corroded and the screw is very tight. Penetrating oil may help.......there is not guarantee. You will not be the first one to have this problem. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1350749896/0
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #40 - 09/29/15 at 15:11:50 She said he cleaned the carb w/out removing this, so there may be some cleaner dried in there. try some penetrating oil. push in the screwdriver pretty hard to keep it from slipping.
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Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last
Reply #41 - 09/29/15 at 19:25:05

Not evey screwdriver fits, be sure the tip fits into the slot. The slot is small, and I've been known to file a driver tip, eliminating any wedge shape. It's not a bad plan to file it so it's tapered the opposite way, with the edges on the
Unscrewing contact sides of the screwdriver shaped to lock in.
I discovered that working on guns. Some of those screws have very shallow slots.
Think about how you'd design a tool to Not slip out of the screw.
And you're very correct to not keep at it when the screwdriver slips.

Penetrating oil, wait.. And again..

A 50/50 mix of acetone and transmission fluid is really good.

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Kenny G Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com The Singles Club...LOL Posts: 1754 Robson Ranch, Denton, Texas Gender:	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #42 - 09/29/15 at 19:30:45 Justin, I have a complete set of Brownell's screw drivers left over from building guns. The drivers are really great on slotted screws. Kenny G
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Compression at 72psi after testing at 180 last Reply #43 - 09/29/15 at 20:26:38 Good tools matter, Even Snap on screwdrivers wear out. Every time it slips, it's injured.
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Reply #44 - 09/30/15 at 08:31:00

Hello,

I pulled my old carb out of the box to be sure i have a backup screw and then attempted to remove said screw. There was a huge disparity between the ease with which I turned the old one and the sweat I busted attenpting not to strip the newer. So, I'm pretty certain I'll need the penetrating oil. I don't want to drill it out if I don't have to.

Thanks for all the help.

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