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09/10/15 at 10:37:57
 
The supreme Iranian leader predicts Israel will be gone by the end of this treaty.
He even promises continued stacks on them, with, I guess the money we will release to them and from oil sales...

He says he will not negotiate any other matters with the great satan, otherwise known as the USA

If we were directly threatened as a nation with our demise, should we just set back as pretend we can trust them not to????
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Reply #1 - 09/10/15 at 10:44:20
 
What's your alternative solution?...
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Reply #2 - 09/10/15 at 13:10:05
 
I know the same ol same ol isn't working, and now it appears Russia is cashing in on the void....
I can't help but think if we could produce and export more oil we could bring these folks to their knees....
Not a quick fix, and it has all sorts of domestic hurdles too....
But what is yours, let's this area proliferate till it becomes WW3?

I work for a major CAM, we sell a lot of aircraft to ME.
These new planes fly non-stop from the ME to all major ports of the world, in just hours....
Biological warfare could easily be delivered in these jets and could cripple the host destination in days....
Air cargo is the new pony express, it is becoming a humongous revenue generating industry, it is not an easy task to regulate each parcel....
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Reply #3 - 09/10/15 at 15:33:44
 
One, ’Solution’, would be to,
NOT
bend over and grab your ankles   !!!

As to other ideas,
Depends, if you want to be, Reactive, or, Proactive.
Could be several hundreds of pages of ideas.
From Hundreds of people on this site.
But what would be the point.
King Bama, would never read them.

in 1938, Chamberlain was a UK Conservative P.M.  
and signed the very appeasing,  
Munich Agreement.
A year later, the UK was at War !

 (Often said)
Those who do NOT, Learn from History,
are doomed to repeat the Mistakes.

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Reply #4 - 09/10/15 at 15:38:01
 
On the old, T.V. show, ‘Mission Impossible”

Do you think that was a case of:
 Art imitating, Life,
or Life, imitating Art ?
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Reply #5 - 09/10/15 at 16:07:06
 
I think we've had our noses in it over there for over a decade, and just made more enemies than ever...
Israel already has nukes,.. and one of most devastatingly powerful military's in the world... Let them do it...
Iran wants trouble,.. they found it...

We're takin' a break,.. on holiday,.. time out... Cool...
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Reply #6 - 09/10/15 at 17:19:18
 
I hear ya, BUT......

Hillary sure went out of her way to ensure Israel that she stands with them. She even said she would not hesitate to use force, if they were attacked...
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Reply #7 - 09/10/15 at 19:06:00
 
It's just rhetoric between Iran & Israel.  Iran hasn't invaded another country in over 200 years.  Have you heard of the Samson Option?  I'm sure Iran is aware of it.

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Reply #8 - 09/10/15 at 19:27:24
 
Quote:
“ … and just made more enemies than ever…  “


This statement, I just, Don’t understand.
I suppose, because, I think, it Just does, NOT,  Matter !

(I just went to the net, and randomly  looked up Countries)

Take,  “Côte d’Ivoire”,   a Country that is in Africa.
In 2014, the U.S. GAVE them,   One BILLON, 436 Millon, US Dollars.
This Country, has a VERY high, GNP, which is the export of Coca Beans.
In fact, this Country, has the largest economy in the Area.

So WHY, are the U.S. Citizens, GIVING them 1.4 + BILLION Dollars ?????
Is it, because, they would get, ‘angry at us’, if we didn’t ?????????

Who the HECK Cares !!~~!!!
Oh Gee, Maybe the price of your Chocolate bar may go up by a few cents ?

And, they are ONLY One, of the many 100’s, of,  ‘WELFARE”, countries !

Let’s look closer to home, Some years ago, I went with the Wife to a, ‘Church’ Breakfast, (a fundraiser).  Standing in line, a young couple in front of us, (New to the area), turned, introduced themselves, and were just, ‘bubbly’, with how wonderful this area was. They could Golf, Ride Bikes, Look at birds, etc, etc. Then he asked me what I do:  Told him: “I own the Gun Shop in the next town, and enjoy, hunting and training hunting dogs”.  They looked at me, with the, ‘Doe in the headlight look’, and then turned away from us, and never said another word.

Now, I am just guessing, but I think, they did not, ‘Like’, me.
Now ask me, ‘Do I care’ ?
I did,  NOT,  ‘Appease them’, saying:   “OK, I will sell my shop, get rid of the Dogs, and stop hunting and using firearms”,
JUST, so they, ‘Would’, like me  ???????

You have a LS650/S40, you are at a , gathering. Someone pulls up, is looking at your bike.
You see this, walk out of the hotel room, and say: “Hi How’s it going, can I answer any questions”.
They walk back to their truck, take out some tools, and proceed to take the seat, off your ride.

You say:  ‘Whow, what ya Doing their”.
They say: “Oh, I just want your seat, give it to me, or, I”ll be your, enemy”.
What, would YOU, say ?
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Reply #9 - 09/10/15 at 19:36:07
 
If Iran keeps giving Israel a hard time and starts a shooting war Israel will take matters into it's own hands and rip Iran a new butt hole. It will probably start as a few strategic strikes from Israel which will escalate. Hopefully it will stay small.
  Israel has both the military and the will to defend itself. It might be the spark that starts WW3 but by that time the region will be totally unstablized and the dogs of war will be loose.
 Both Israel and Iran know how dangerous a full scaled military action will be to the area.
  Right now it's a bunch of saber rattling by Iran who is trying to save face after the nuclear deal.

I try real hard not to discuss religion. I tell them I was raised as a Quaker but carry a gun which is a real good conversation stopper. Wink  
 
 
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Reply #10 - 09/10/15 at 19:52:03
 
Iran ? Trying to save face? I thought they won...
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Reply #11 - 09/11/15 at 11:17:46
 
Iran didn't win, they had to make some concessions instead of being able to do whatever they want when they want to.
 Maybe the deal wasn't perfect but it is better than having the local bully showing up at the sandbox with a baseball bat.
 don't think the deal changed anything, it just kicked the can down the road for another 10 years if it even lasts that long. The problem will always be there, Israel and Iran HATE each other, it's the way it has always been and always will be and there is nothing the US can do about it.
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Reply #12 - 09/11/15 at 18:20:44
 
And we didn't get our four people.
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Reply #13 - 09/11/15 at 19:07:26
 
I see a point. And, all I know, as with everything, is what I'm told. I do know a few things that conflict with common knowledge, like the Fed, and how it works. But this Deal is new, likely not fully disclosed, and I don't understand what we get out of it. As to the money, I've heard 150 Billion. Now, is that US, giving them that kinda money, or is that money we locked down when the sanctions were initiated?
Why didn't we get our people?
Why now?
I don't get it.
Here's what I do get..
I'm not accustomed to seeing foreign policy decisions be smart.
This undoes a foreign policy decision that has, according to what I've been told, caused many innocents suffering and death,
Seems we could at least have gotten our people..
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Reply #14 - 09/12/15 at 06:45:24
 
MnSpring wrote on 09/10/15 at 19:27:24:
Quote:
“ … and just made more enemies than ever…  “


This statement, I just, Don’t understand.
I suppose, because, I think, it Just does, NOT,  Matter !

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Really?  Shocked Shocked Shocked
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