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Re: lag after opening up throttle
Reply #15 - 06/01/15 at 21:44:57
 
Matt_greatlakesstate wrote on 06/01/15 at 14:42:30:
I have an 01 savage 26,000 miles jardine slip on. I have a question about the throttle response on my bike. It seems to be mostly in 3rd and 4th gear. Whenever I crack the throttle wide open to pass or catch up if I'm behind the group it seems to lag for about 3 seconds than i feel the power kick in. I can't tell if its revving up than grabbing or if its just lagging to take off. It almost seems like the clutch slips for a second but i cant tell. Other than that the bike shifts and runs great! I just got this bike a couple months ago and i love it. Thanks

Your slide might be sticking.
a dose of seafoam will do the trick.
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Reply #16 - 06/02/15 at 01:19:53
 
If this is a new condition, it could be a clogged main jet or as suggested above a sticky slide. Either way a good cleaning will resolve the issue. If this condition has alway existed, you have a lean main or needle (depending on how wide you are opening the throttle). At what throttle setting 1/2, 3/4, full) do you notice the lag?
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Re: lag after opening up throttle
Reply #17 - 06/02/15 at 04:32:03
 
Only at 3/4- to full throttle
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Re: lag after opening up throttle
Reply #18 - 06/02/15 at 05:01:49
 
Actually......you should not get in the habit of "cracking" open the throttle - but rather rolling the throttle on.  When you instantly open the throttle the vacuum in the venturi drops drastically, and the ability of the carb to pull fuel through the jets is compromised.  The CV (Constant Velocity) carb is supposed to help keep the engine running well when this condition occurs by sensing the drop in the vacuum and it drops the slide/needle to keep the air flow high enough to sustain the vacuum.  So....when you crack open the throttle the slide drops, and gradually raises as the engine responds and builds up adequate air flow to allow the slide to rise up to the full throttle position.  Should this take 3 seconds.....probably not in an engine that is jetted properly - but there is some lag in the CV carb when you make an abrupt change in the throttle position.

In a non-CV carb the drop in vacuum sometimes can result in so low of a vacuum that the fuel flow stops - and the engine just coughs and stops running until you let up on the throttle a bit.  This is especially true on modern engines that are jetted really lean to comply with the emission requirements.  The CV carb design is used to help make a smoother running engine, and correct for an over-aggressive application of throttle (just like ABS brakes correct for too much braking or Traction Control correct for too much power).  However the CV carb is mechanical and not digital electronics....so there is a bit of a lag to be expected.  (Proper jJetting could however help to shorten the lag).
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Re: lag after opening up throttle
Reply #19 - 06/02/15 at 15:10:33
 
Matt_greatlakesstate wrote on 06/02/15 at 04:32:03:
Only at 3/4- to full throttle


Go up one size on your main jet. While you're at it, clean the carb.
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Re: lag after opening up throttle
Reply #20 - 06/02/15 at 17:03:19
 
Thanks for all the advice Wink
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Reply #21 - 10/11/15 at 14:42:02
 
Im trying the seafoam method on my '87 savage right now. Bike rode fine last night but when i parked, i left the raptor petcock on  Huh and 3/4 of the gas leaked out. Put new gas in, rode home perfectly, and parked in my garage overnight (with the petcock off). Took for a ride today and throttle response was horrible.
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Reply #22 - 10/11/15 at 14:56:34
 
Kinda depends on the gear/rpm you're at when you nail it. If you're just rolling along and at the lowest speed you can be at IN That Gear, You might wanna drop a gear and pin its ears back. .but the Seafoam treatment for a coupla tanks won't hurt.
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Re: lag after opening up throttle
Reply #23 - 10/11/15 at 15:11:32
 
Hell, I hope checked your oil level.
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Reply #24 - 10/12/15 at 04:58:17
 
I'm with Versy.  I hope the oil was checked.  Could be an engine with a gallon or so of gas in the oil and very little lubrication.
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Re: lag after opening up throttle
Reply #25 - 10/12/15 at 15:55:35
 
So I put a splash of seafoam into about a 1/4 tank of gas last night. Today after work I went for a ride and the the throttle was still not very responsive, until the seafoam worked its way through the carb. Now its more responsive than ever
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Reply #26 - 10/12/15 at 16:00:52
 
Oil level was and is good. Just changed over the weekend
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Reply #27 - 10/12/15 at 16:10:10
 
You haven't addressed the point I made about the speed and gear when you want to accelerate. It's not gonna Hop when the gas gets poured on If you are at the low end of the speed you can be in in third. If you're rolling along in third, just going fast enough to not be lugging it and decide to accelerate and you want it to get up and go Right Now, it's not gonna do it. Once the RPM come up, Then it will start accelerating hard. Try dropping a gear if I'm describing the way things are going.
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