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Reply #30 - 05/31/15 at 12:29:16
 
Posted by: HovisPresley: " ...All the more reason to disarm? Surely? ..."

Are we talking to Piers Morgan?

OK, No Guns, nowhere.
You believe that will stop violence.

Now this club lays on the ground,
it does NOT, hit someone all by it's self.
A, Person, has to use it.

OK, get rid of all, Clubs.

Guess we are back to rocks   Grin

Very Few guns in the UK, compared to other countries.
So their, IS, less crimes committed with, 'firearms'.
But !  Their is NOT, less Crimes.

How many firearms are allowed in France?
And what was recently used in France.
Do you think, it is possible, that, if the Artists, had the Freedom, to carry a firearm, and knew how to use it.  
It would have not been a, 'sitting Duck' event?
Or course we will never know.

Many years ago, listening to a PBS station.
(PBS = Public Broadcast, and is well known for, it's, Symphony type music, and it's ultra liberal, reporting)
It was just after, Florida passed the, Right To Carry Concealed law.
A PBS reporter, was asking a convenience store owner what he felt about the new law.  He said: "Yea got robbed every month, some times, two times a month. But the new law, not robbed once in the last 6 months, and it's all due to the new law, and the sign I put in the window".
The PBS reported asked what sign.  The store owner replied:
"The one that says, 'Free Coffee to anyone showing a Carry License',"
Then points to the coffee machine, and says:
"Which one,of those 6 people, have a gun".

Let's say, we lived in a world, with out, firearms, knives, clubs, or even rocks.  
Someone goes into a bank, jumps over the counter, takes the cash.
No one can stop them, because their no, (see above)
Then drives away, in a Red Ford truck, with Goodyear tires.

So, it's clear, by banning ALL red Ford Trucks, with Goodyear tires, it will stop all Bank Robberies.

Silly?   Yea.  But it brings the point home;
Firearms do not cause any more crime,
than, rocks, clubs, hammers, screwdrivers, knives, or even, Cricket Bats.

It is the Person, not the object.




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Reply #31 - 05/31/15 at 12:41:11
 
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Bagdad was the world's centre of learning. The West owes it's understanding of mathematics, medicine, and astronomy to those that studied there


That's a bit of a stretch. And even if it was entirely true it's irrelevant. The new Caliphate that present day Muslims are dreaming about, won't bear much resemblance to the supposed glories of that civilization.

The systematic destruction of the artifacts of their own culture by the ISIS idiots ought to be example enough of that.


The civilization they are working to create is going to be one of savagery, ignorance, and theological tyranny.

Islam is a crackpot religion founded by a psychotic, megalomaniac pedophile. It is evil and indefensible as far as I am concerned. And defending evil in the name of tolerance is simply making a virtue out of cowardice.

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Reply #32 - 05/31/15 at 12:43:59
 
Here's an interesting 3 minute cartoon on the subject of American and gun culture ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDCh4-pKrrE
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Reply #33 - 05/31/15 at 12:53:58
 
oldNslow wrote on 05/31/15 at 10:25:02:
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Then, just use Rocks..

The UK will probably make it back to the sixth century first, but , never fear, the USA will be along soon enough.

(Bold type mine)

Quote oldNslow: "And even if it was entirely true it's irrelevant."

How is it irrelevant? It seems strange to refer to the West going back to the 6th century under Islamic rule, and then refer to the present day muslims.
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Reply #34 - 05/31/15 at 13:00:11
 
[quote author=615F5E52405C5D330 link=1432916418/30#31 date=1433101271] Quote:
Islam is a crackpot religion founded by a psychotic, megalomaniac pedophile. It is evil and indefensible as far as I am concerned. And defending evil in the name of tolerance is simply making a virtue out of cowardice.


Heavy words, heavy words......
I'm certainly not a coward.
I certainly don't defend evil.

Tell me about a religion that started off with a talking snake, then we can talk about crackpot  Wink
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Reply #35 - 05/31/15 at 13:07:14
 
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Posted by: HovisPresley: Here's an interesting 3 minute cartoon on the subject of American and gun culture


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
LOL,  what a moronic, piece of total lies!
It would take 10+ pages, to correct the LIES, in that clip.
Out and Out Lies.
Lies by omission of fact.
And Lies, distorting the truth.

 But hey, what else does one expect from Michael Moor?

“I’m ‘Offended’,
But, guess what, not gonna shoot someone,
(or even throw rocks at them)

Of course, if you, truly believe that,
Ya wanna buy some Ocean Front property in AZ ?
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Reply #36 - 05/31/15 at 13:10:18
 
It's a joke! It's a cartoon!  Roll Eyes

Do you wanna buy London Bridge?
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Reply #37 - 05/31/15 at 13:47:20
 
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Posted by: HovisPresley: Do you wanna buy London Bridge?


I believe the 'old' London Bridge, Really IS, in AZ.

Posted by: HovisPresley: It's a joke! It's a cartoon!

Yes, and No.
It, IS, a Joke, to people who understand, 'real'.
But to Moore, (the creator/funder/promoter), he, actually believes.
And he actually, has, people, that believe him, when he Lies.
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Reply #38 - 05/31/15 at 13:56:26
 
Kinna like the, ‘Cartoonists of Mohammed’,
Probably 95% or even more, of those that practice that religion,
KNOW, they are a Joke.

But what to do with the much smaller percent?
‘Appease’ them, kiss their Azz, and let them do what they want?
  (And call it, ’tolerant’)
Or, ’Teach’, them, ‘killing people, is NOT, accepted Behavior.?
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Reply #39 - 05/31/15 at 13:57:44
 
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Tell me about a religion that started off with a talking snake, then we can talk about crackpot


Again; irrelevant. What I believe or don't believe about Judaism or Christianity has nothing to do with my opinion about Islam. That comment is just a red herring.

If you defend Islam you are indeed defending evil. And I'm not just talking about so called "radical Islam" but Islam as it is the rationale for public policy in most of the middle east.

Our enlightened allies the Saudis for example, who are actually advertising for more executioners, because they seem to have a glut of folks who need their heads chopped off for insulting the prophet, and various other violations of Sharia law for which decapitation is the designated punishment. I'm sure you can think of your own examples from Iran, Afghanistan etc.  Hell, we have even had some "Honor killings right here in the US. Husbands killing their wives for some transgression of Islamic doctrine, Fathers killing their daughters for desiring to date an infidel. I bet you can dig up a bunch from the UK too if you care to.

There is no nuance here. It's a simple yes or no proposition. Is this  kind of behavior OK or not, evil or not? And please spare me any sanctimonious crap about "moderate Muslims" and so on. Anyone who doesn't condemn this stuff is complicit.

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Reply #40 - 05/31/15 at 14:57:48
 
I believe that killing a person in the name of (any) religion is wrong.

In addition, I believe that the love of money/power is a religion.

PS. Remember that Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi, whose family lived in the US  Wink

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Reply #41 - 05/31/15 at 15:08:53
 
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Is this  kind of behavior OK or not, evil or not? And please spare me any sanctimonious crap about "moderate Muslims" and so on.


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Reply #42 - 05/31/15 at 16:08:45
 
Shall we explore the Bible for acts of violence against non-believers?
Samuel L Jackson.....pulp fiction?

PS. Two heads are better than one.  Grin
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Reply #43 - 05/31/15 at 16:22:46
 
I'm afraid you chose the wrong movie to site, it is an all time favorite of mine.

“Do you read the Bible, Brett? Well there’s this passage I’ve got memorized – sort of fits this occasion. Ezekiel 25:17.”

Then Jackson goes on to deliver what appears to be a tremendously dramatic Bible exhortation:

“The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.”

The thing is, the quotation above is not at all a proper rendering of Ezekiel 25:17. The actual verse reads as follows:

Ezekiel 25:17 And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

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Reply #44 - 05/31/15 at 17:04:28
 
pg wrote on 05/31/15 at 16:22:46:
The thing is, the quotation above is not at all a proper rendering of Ezekiel 25:17. The actual verse reads as follows:

Ezekiel 25:17 And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.


Wow, I'm impressed!

My Aramaic is next to useless!
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