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Re: Savage Dyno Charts
Reply #30 - 03/27/18 at 07:42:45
 
batman wrote on 03/26/18 at 13:32:31:
The Suzuki stock number for the cam you used would be great!


It's 12711-12D00-000, found it from a finnish Savage forum.

Here's another dyno chart, it's the same bike:

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13368_10153387930413606_6209952...
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Reply #31 - 03/29/18 at 10:50:42
 
I noticed that torque and hp cross at 7000 rpm on that chart. Is that because of the units being metric?  In SAE they should cross at 5252 rpm.
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Reply #32 - 03/29/18 at 12:06:42
 
Fast650  the torque and hp still cross at 5252 although these charts don't show it because they use the same vertical scale to show both hp and Nm . If you look at the dyno posted by Pasmura on page one, you will see a flat spot for both hp and Nm at about 2000 rpm, if you slid the curve of torque down so those flats were even you would find they do cross a 5252 and would be the kind of dyno we see normally.
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Reply #33 - 03/29/18 at 13:34:01
 
The torque at 5250 rpm is 61 Nm.  Simply convert Nm at 5250 to ft-lbs.  It works out to 45 ft-lbs.  If you check the graph you will see that 5250 rpm crosses the torque scale at the value 45.  It works out perfectly.
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Reply #34 - 03/29/18 at 22:52:58
 
I see, said the blind man. I didn't catch that when I looked.
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Reply #35 - 03/31/18 at 00:11:08
 
I just had my bone stock 2016 LS650 dyno tested.  It should be useful as a baseline (at least for me).  I hope I can attach the jpeg file of the run.  In case the old man can't get the tech gizmos workin the numbers were 30.5 Hp @ 5500 rpm and 34.9 ft-lbs @ 3500 rpm.  The air/fuel was actually pretty good except for about 1500 to 1800 rpm.  I honestly think that area of the rev range can't be measured accurately.  The carb hasn't been touched.  Air/fuel was pretty much 13 to 13.8 throughout.  It signs off about 5500 rpm.  LMK if the jpeg attachment works.
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Reply #36 - 03/31/18 at 02:30:10
 

Yep, it works.
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Reply #37 - 03/31/18 at 05:17:12
 
Those numbers are at the rear wheel, right? Or have they been corrected to crank numbers?
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Reply #38 - 03/31/18 at 05:55:08
 
I would think the 1,500 - 1,800 rpm range is difficult for a carb to be very precise at regulating fuel flow.  The pilot circuit is beginning to fade away, the needle and slide is just starting to add fuel, and the air flowing past the slide is going to be pulsing heavily....and there is so little air flow compared to the size/volume of the slide and venturi that the air velocity is going to be pretty low.
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Reply #39 - 03/31/18 at 08:00:08
 
If I was going to have a ''blip'' or bad spot in the mixture, I would be very happy it was at 1500-1800 rpm range. The only times you would ride thru it would be in 1st and 2nd, and then just for a moment. I have high gearing and seldom, if ever, go over 4k, but still don't actually ride in that low rpm range. 2k to 2400 is as low as I will keep it, and then only when easy cruising in traffic. My bike seems happiest between 2500 and 3800, and with my high gearing (3400 @ 60 mph) I can live with that.
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Reply #40 - 03/31/18 at 12:17:57
 
Yes, measurement at rear wheel.  It's right about where it should be stock according to the specs I pulled off Wikipedia.  A little lower but the temp and relative humidity were very high.  Especially RH.  I didn't mean to say that the air/fuel ration can't be measured at 1500-1800, what I was getting at is that on the dyno, doing a 4th gear roll-on, the beast is chugging & buckin pretty bad when you first start the pull.  It doesn't like accelerating in 4th from that low of an rpm.  Once it got its feet on the ground it was a nice smooth pull, and the air/fuel was right where I would want it to be.  Now I can start havin some fun.
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Reply #41 - 04/05/18 at 03:01:45
 
Which cam you use be it DR650 or Lancer's stage three should depend on the type of performance you desire from your bike. Both cams have nearly the same duration , but achieve it differently. The stage three has longer overlap , the cam lobes farther apart ( termed closing the centers) and less valve lift ,peak torque occurs at a higher rpm and is flatter ,this favors higher top speed at the expense of some low and mid range performance. The DR cam has higher lift and shorter overlap (termed opening the centers)do to it's dirt bike parenthood ,and will make it's torque and hp  more in the low and mid range ,at the expense of some top speed . It might be modified by the use of kawa pulleys or chain drive, I see from pic's that Pasimura has obtained a kawa front pulley already.
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