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Reply #15 - 04/22/15 at 20:50:26
 
wonder what that corresponds to in metric sizing?
online converter says 104.5 mm, so probably 100/90/13 would be the modern equivalent
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Reply #16 - 04/23/15 at 03:06:58
 
Art Webb wrote on 04/22/15 at 20:50:26:
wonder what that corresponds to in metric sizing?
online converter says 104.5 mm, so probably 100/90/13 would be the modern equivalent


There are 25.4 mm in each inch.....so a 4.10 tire x 25.4 = 104.14 mm.

You need to be a little bit cautious about making those kind of conversions - you need to check the allowable rim width.  The tire sizes shown in inches may be made for a different rim width than the equivalent metric tire.  It is also important to check the rim width that a particular tire is made for.  Most 150 width tires are made for a 3.50 rim and are not recommended for use on our 2.75 rear rim.  Mounting a 150 on that rim will make a really arched tread....you will wear out the center too soon, and never be able to use the tread that is wrapped over on the side as a result of the tire being squeezed by the narrow rim.

I currently have a 90/90-18 tire on the front and a 110/80-18 rear tire on my Cafe' conversion.....and there is plenty of tire for the 30+ HP and torque.  We currently are in a mindset of needing much wider tires than we really do......it's a visual thing induced by looking at custom cruisers and road racing 1,000cc superbikes......or 800 pound touring bikes.
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Reply #17 - 04/23/15 at 08:09:52
 
Thanks Dave,very good info, I bookmarked that chart Cheesy
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Reply #18 - 04/23/15 at 08:29:58
 
It is a mistake I made on my first rear tire.  I followed the herd and installed a 130/70-18 tire on the 18x2.50 rear rim.  I wore out the center of the tread in 4,000 miles and there was tread wrapped over on the side of the tire I couldn't possible lean over far enough to use.  A 130/70-18 tire belongs on a 18x3.50 rim.

If you want a wider tire....you really need a wider rim to match.

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Reply #19 - 04/23/15 at 08:35:07
 
no way would I go wider, the S40 is over tired as it is, I will likely go narrower next time around
In fact I wonder if the 140/90 may be negatively affecting steering

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Reply #20 - 04/23/15 at 09:42:12
 
Dave wrote on 04/23/15 at 08:29:58:
I wore out the center of the tread in 4,000 miles and there was tread wrapped over on the side of the tire I couldn't possible lean over far enough to use.


Also keep in mind that while modern sport bike tires use dual - or even triple - compounds (soft at the edge, hard in the center) to evenly distribute wear and improve handling at the limit; the tires available for for a stock S40 (15-inch rim) or even the cafe conversions (18-inch rim) are old-tech single compounds. Unless you spend a third of your time in left hand turns,  a third in right hand turns and a third in straight-line cruising - you'll never get even wear on a single compound tire.

The one advantage I can think of (if you like this characteristic) with a pinched tire is faster rotation from straight-up to leaned over due to the more rounded radius of the tire. This characteristic might be less desirable on an S40 then on a cafe racer.

As I gain confidence on my cafe racer I notice the chicken strips on my rear getting smaller and smaller.
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Reply #21 - 04/23/15 at 09:53:57
 
I used the Pirelli Sport Demons for the first tire.

Now I have BT45 Bridgestone Battlax that is supposed to be a dual compound tire on the rear (single compound on front).
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Reply #22 - 04/23/15 at 10:14:25
 
I was not aware of the Pirelli Sport Demons or the Bridgestone Battlax BT45. It's nice to know there are options besides the Kendra 671's I got from RYCA.

Let us know what you think of the BT45's.
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Reply #23 - 04/23/15 at 10:24:12
 
Another option is the Avon Roadriders....they come in a bunch of sizes that fit older bikes.
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