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08/09/14 at 05:49:45
 
And I was... Underwhelmed. Granted it was an 883, and might have been running poorly (I don't really know, as I have no basis for comparison), but other than being pretty torquey, I found it too heavy and sluggish compared to my Savage. Also granted that my Savage is a lot lighter than stock, bored out, cam-ed and carb-ed, etc, so I might not have the best un-biased starting point.  Smiley

So, to all those who own or "traded up" to a sporty, what am I missing? I want to like them, and was seriously considering picking one up as another project, but as of now I think I'll just look for a vintage CB750 instead.
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Reply #1 - 08/09/14 at 17:44:16
 
Do you know what? Same here. I rode a mate's 883 Iron a while back and came away a bit disappointed. Not that fast, and shakes like a dog sh..ing razor blades. Much worse than my big singles. The speedo looked nice though...
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Reply #2 - 08/09/14 at 18:03:53
 
Well SmokeStack

Did you notice how quiet the motor was ?   The sportsters have Hydraulic lifters and pushrods to lift the valves up .  No more adjusting or noisy  valves  Cool
 
There are a couple of other things that matter .
 
The Pre-2004 sportsters are not rubber mounted motors and you don't want on of them.   You really don't .  
 
The standard Sportsters are to high off the ground and are "Top Heavy" feeling,  the "Low" or lower shocks on the reg. model is what your after.

The basic sportster 883 has a well balanced motor and in 07 had a HP increase (fuel-injected) over the older model .  Weight/HP ratio very similar to a hoped-up S-40.

The 1200 model is exactly  a 883 with bigger piston (same stroke) , taller primary gear and is no longer a well balanced engine (I've had both).  The 1200 is quicker than a S-40  ever can be.   I'm talking 50+ in first , 75+ in second , and geared to top out about 145-150 ish.   It will go through 1st and 2nd just as fast as a standard geared savage/S-40 will but be going a lot faster when it does (High test gas required).

So to recap:
Lower the center of gravity enough to loose the "top heavy" feel
Get the Fuel-injected (07 or newer/50mpg) for the HP increase or go with the 04-06 model for best fuel millage .
Stay with the 883 for smooth  or if your "power hungry" get ya a 1200 model  Shocked  and "Hang-On"  Grin

I keep my S-40 , and plan on Keeping it ---but the Sportster does the Interstate trips very well (883 with the 1200 primary gearing) best of both Sportster wrapped  up in one  package (smooth and long legged).  Cool .
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Reply #3 - 08/09/14 at 23:00:09
 
Harley.
That's enough to discourage me.
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Reply #4 - 08/09/14 at 23:08:44
 
I've had a few... the old models (Ironheads) were better bikes than the new ones. 1974 and older had right side foot shift and left side brake, just like older Brit bikes. Get a good generator and a good voltage regulator, upgrade the oil pump, get a King tank, and the XL900s were decent. The XL1000 was horrible. The Evo Sporties I've owned/ridden were straight up garbage, be they 883 or 1200, 4 speed or 5 speed models.
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Reply #5 - 08/10/14 at 03:18:15
 
I rode MM's bike for a bit.  It was very smooth, steered nice, and with MM on it the thing corners really well.  He has it loaded down with luggage, and it doesn't seem to mind.

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Reply #6 - 08/10/14 at 23:06:23
 
I'm buying a 2007 Sportster 1200 Low next week.
I test drove it last week and was intrigued enough to
want it as a companion to my 2007 S40.
Both bikes are mostly stock and I just ride for pleasure
on the beautiful country roads in this part of Ohio.
After a few months I'll be interested to see which bike
I tend to grab the keys for when I want to take a ride.
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Reply #7 - 08/11/14 at 07:20:05
 
Congratulations Todd

Remember about the "Primary Gear" from the 1200's will move 5th gear redline up to the 150mph area (not that the 883 would do it)(or me either), but those long legs feel good on the interstate .    I find myself cruising along then looking at the speedometer and slowing down often.  Seems like it wants to run about 80 or so.   I understand some of the 1200 fans like to run the 883 primary gear so they can pull wheelies without working the clutch .  Smiley


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Reply #8 - 08/11/14 at 07:55:08
 
Hey MM,... where's a good place to get a 30 or 32 tooth front pulley?...
I've read about people getting them for $35, but all I find is $100+...
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Reply #9 - 08/11/14 at 23:17:13
 

Thanks, MM.

I'm really looking forward to spending some time on the Sporty.
... and thanks for the heads-up on the "Primary Gear".
But dang, only 150 MPH ?
Is that enough to keep up with you and Dave on the Dragon ?

I'm hoping to join you guys for your ride next Spring if my schedule allows. I'll have 3 years riding experience by then and hopefully will
have learned enough to know my safe limits on the Dragon.
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Reply #10 - 08/12/14 at 03:07:30
 
Todd James wrote on 08/11/14 at 23:17:13:
But dang, only 150 MPH ?
Is that enough to keep up with you and Dave on the Dragon ?


Todd:

The truth is.....we don't go much over the 30 mph on the Dragon.  There are corners that can't be taken at 30 mph, and on the straights we may go over 30 to pass someone in a hurry.  We all just get in a line and ride at or own pace.....some are quicker than others.  When we get to the end....we just stop, take in the view, and wait for the rest to show up.  We don't approach it like a group of squids taking on New York City!

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Reply #11 - 08/12/14 at 07:32:57
 
Dave

That's nice to know.
It makes a weekend on the Dragon with all of you
sound less intimidating for a novice like me.
I've followed all of the Dragon Run threads for the past
couple years thinking that I'd enjoy the rides, activities,
and fellowship, but that I wasn't yet skilled enough to
drag pegs with riders as skilled as you and MM.
Thanks for the clarification and hopefully I'll be able to
attend next Spring's ride !
 
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Reply #12 - 08/12/14 at 11:07:29
 
Whoo !  Roll Eyes

I've never taken my 883 past 90 mph, but it would cruise at 90 just fine . Wink    The 883 ain't no sportbike wheelie machine .
I would guess it having power to do +- 115 or so ?   90 mph is about 1/3 throttle .

Truth be told , we don't really go that fast on those dragon type roads .   Heck ! My pegs drag a lot earlier than OldFellers.   Granted most of the time a little more throttle applied when the pegs first touch down will help get around the corner , but these are FUN-RUNS (most of the time) !  Grin Roll Eyes Grin

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Reply #13 - 08/12/14 at 14:33:55
 
MMRanch wrote on 08/09/14 at 18:03:53:
The 1200 model is exactly  a 883 with bigger piston (same stroke) , taller primary gear and is no longer a well balanced engine (I've had both).


I have only ridden my buddy's '02 1200. Can you elaborate on "no longer a well balanced engine"? I am seriously thinking of breaking down and getting a Sportster for the huge aftermarket accessories available for it.
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Reply #14 - 08/12/14 at 16:35:57
 
Yea Greg

Back when I had my 2004 1200 sportster , sometimes I'd get my right knee against the breather , and get it tickled from the vibration.   Kinda reminiscent of a 200 china street-legal dirt bike I used to have (vibrate better than a Fat-Giggler machine  Grin)      I rode with an old feller on a 02 1200 sportster for a while , and always had a hard time getting him to cruse above 70.  Then one day he says "How the He** do you stay on that thing above 65mph ?  Mine vibrates my A** off ! "  Embarrassed

From what I've read the other Harleys rubber mounted years ago but for some reason they held-off on the Sportsters till 04 . Huh

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