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07/12/14 at 20:08:09
 
I am in a big union working on commercial aircraft.....
A union who just came out with its "suggestions" for mid term candidates.
Funny thing, its the first time ever they neglected to mention the "suggested candidate" party affiliation, goodness me.
Every election before, they always had a BIG D by it  Shocked

Just by talking/listening to membership at work, I think I can safely say, the Democrats won't begin to get 50% of the memberships vote. More likely 1 out of 3 and that's if they (democrats) even bother to vote  Tongue

I think the only saving grace they have at pulling this out is if the repubs bring impeachment against Obama......

Folk are tired of this crap, they want fix's and results to problems, not more party warring.
Lord knows the guy has proven inept, out of touch, and even presently polls lower than dubya as prez.......
But to spend any resources on this, as Palin suggest, would give the democrats a much needed change of topic and diversion from the facts that Obama and party have spent way too much energy on "party" issues as opposed to America's issues.....

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Reply #1 - 07/13/14 at 05:40:52
 
I agree dawg, obamas ineptness  has spread apathy in the ranks of the D's. The hardcore libs will still show up and vote but the whishy-washy "moderates" will take the cowardly way out and check out next election as long as the R's are not stupid enough to impeach.

Here's what I think we'll see: a few R's will talk impeachment; the media, anxious to protect their boy-blunder, will talk this up and make it seem like its a mainstream idea, which it's not. Palin is not mainstream, never has been which was part of her appeal. Clinton's ratings went up durning impeachment hearings but that's because it was viewed as picking on him for personal failings not for lying under oath. Obama's impeachment would be for basically traitorous actions but would be spun as old white guys "lynching" a young black guy. Not sure if his public approval would go up because everyone knows by now he's an idiot, but the perception of R's would go down which would have the same net effect.

By the way, it occurs to me Palin and Obama are polar opposites. Their positions, experiences etc are mirrors of one another. Let's say McCain won and died on day 1. A Palin presidency would have been just as bad as obama's has been. She would have pushed crazy right wing policies like he has on the left. She had a little more executive experience as a governor, but there are more people living within 20 miles of me than in the entire state of Alaska so her "experience" was equal to Obamas, which is to say practically zero. I don't know why anyone listens to her. I crossed her off my list forever when she resigned as Governor to "protect the state". She was either protecting her husband or taking the opportunity to cash some big checks, either way, that removes her from serious consideration.
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Reply #2 - 07/13/14 at 09:36:43
 
Inept? Noooo, ALL of this is planned. How is it that anyone doesn't know about the ads for hiring escorts for children in January? Why not increase border security instead of arranging for transportation?Step back,LOOK at the history.Bush signed the North American Union,eliminating the border. Pelosi said This is a community with a border through it.
Don't you get it? This is ANOTHER EXAMPLE of the moves to ruin us.Clinton did NAFTA, Bammy is working on yet another Trade Agreement,in such secrecy even Congress can't see it. All this is what the Globalist creeps have been wanting. Start seeing deeper than Bub and Dem
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Reply #3 - 07/13/14 at 10:36:36
 
JOG...... I have posted to the "new world order" and believe intimately with the biblical implications of such.
Honestly, one would really have to have blinders on not to see how the prophecies are coming to fruition.....

Without going into evangelizing, I only say the gist of my post was merely a present "play by play" analyst, as I have a full understanding of the folly of thinking I can change the outcome, I can be a witness, nothing more   Kiss  
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Reply #4 - 07/13/14 at 11:19:20
 
My reply was to Mark.
I agree we are on the road laid out, but I believe it can be forestalled should the people Do as the Bible says,repent and their land will be healed.But,I believe our society has been so removed from right and wrong that it just won't happen.
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Reply #5 - 07/13/14 at 12:35:59
 
Forestalled, perhaps........but the promise will not be denied.

It is a simple question of either believing, or not, that a man named Jesus would willingly allow himself to hang from a cross, for our benefit.

To wrap an understanding around it....... now that is another question that needn't be fulfilled, to accept, or deny him.

I do understand my own human emotions, hopping its latter, so we may make the journey with many more brothers and sisters.....  Kiss
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Reply #6 - 07/13/14 at 14:53:29
 
raydawg wrote on 07/13/14 at 10:36:36:
...  I have a full understanding of the folly of thinking I can change the outcome, I can be a witness, nothing more ...  


I disagree with that.
Yes, perhaps it is inevitable, that one day,
Things will change, to a, 'World Order'.

BUT,   WE,   CAN,  Put that day OFF.
By NOT giving up.  
By becoming involved.
And by DOING something.

Just, simply, 'laying down, and watching', is Not the Answer!

Doing,  'NOTHING', is  EXACTLY, what the Politicians want !
It is, what they are used to !!!

A Herd of sheep, goes someplace, as a 'herd'.
When one sheep, get's out of line, the dog/s are sent after it.
To put it, 'back in line',   or be eliminated, and turned into Haggis.

What if,  the WHOLE, Herd, did something ?????

VOTE ! HOLD the people, who are, VOTED in, RESPONSIBLE.
Remind them,   'YOU Pay  THEIR  wages".  They do NOT pay yours!

And tell them, the  ONLY words they fear.
 (And Fear Mightily)
"You Will Not  Be  Reelected"





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Reply #7 - 07/13/14 at 15:38:07
 
Resisting tyrants and their tyranny is our duty as is being a Watchman on the Wall.
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Reply #8 - 07/14/14 at 12:34:56
 
..but aren't the watchmen chaste?  not for me.
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Reply #9 - 07/16/14 at 14:18:36
 
markallan00 wrote on 07/14/14 at 12:34:56:
..but aren't the watchmen chaste?  not for me.


Grin Grin Grin Dems break any laws they want with impunity, I am am certain we can sport an "opt in" clause.  Wink
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Reply #10 - 08/02/14 at 10:40:01
 
Money and power ='s break any laws you want, and also equals write any laws you want, and buy the Supreme Court.
We have good republicans and good democrats. But we also have the lousy ones.
The lousy ones are the one that outsource our jobs overseas, that give tax breaks to the wealthiest, waste tax dollars on stupid contracts. They gave is Nafta, Cafta, and the current ones they are slipping past us - Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPA) and Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership with the European Union.
These are not good for regular Americans, republican or democrat. These are for the wealthy 1% and higher.
Neocons and neoliberals. These are the folks bringing us to financial ruin and a staggering economy while they make their trillions through investments around the world.
They are "bi-partisan" slugs pushing global capitalism.
For regular working people, it is a race to the bottom.
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Reply #11 - 08/02/14 at 11:31:53
 
tcreeley wrote on 08/02/14 at 10:40:01:
Money and power ='s break any laws you want, and also equals write any laws you want, and buy the Supreme Court.
We have good republicans and good democrats. But we also have the lousy ones.
The lousy ones are the one that outsource our jobs overseas, that give tax breaks to the wealthiest, waste tax dollars on stupid contracts. They gave is Nafta, Cafta, and the current ones they are slipping past us - Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPA) and Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership with the European Union.
These are not good for regular Americans, republican or democrat. These are for the wealthy 1% and higher.
Neocons and neoliberals. These are the folks bringing us to financial ruin and a staggering economy while they make their trillions through investments around the world.
They are "bi-partisan" slugs pushing global capitalism.
For regular working people, it is a race to the bottom.


I think some run on the belief they can change things, however.....
The cost to mount and execute a successful campaign through the primary and into the general election is so prohibitive you will have sold part of yourself to the bidding of others....

It is true we still can "fix it" through voting, but way too many folk are those "neo" as you refer, only pulling the lever for their party regardless of candidate, and we see the results.

Of course the media loves the status quo as it generates much wealth to them.

If we look at this in a much smaller example, all of us view our beliefs as trump, gee, ain't that why we hold them  Grin
But often our perception of self is not true in how others perceive us, even tho most of what we do is trying to convince them as such.

If we view ourselves through the prism of what others believe/see about us, I dare say we could really learn the truth about who we might really be....

Use that analogy and reason to view our nation/politics through the eyes of a different country, reading their news of us, etc, and I will bet you get a whole different perspective than what we think we are  Shocked
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Reply #12 - 08/02/14 at 11:40:35
 
Thinking of money and what it does I came across this today:

“Three Lost Decades” – How the American Middle Class is 20% Poorer Now vs. 1984"
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/07/30/three-lost-decades-how-the-american-m...

We are all working to get by. Could be worse I guess, but it could be better! Wink
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Reply #13 - 08/02/14 at 12:40:53
 
Remember NAFTA? Look at the world. The promise of NAFTA was to"level the playing field",implying to the American people that the goal was to lift the standard of living in other places,but what they really wanted and accomplished was to drive US down. Look at the countries that have been invaded. NONE of them were part of the IMF,World Bank game. Each was sovereign money based. I could type all day and not be able to make it all clear. I have been digging into this stuff for 15 years,while most people were at work,I was looking for rational answers to questions Not Addressed on the news.
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Reply #14 - 08/03/14 at 11:55:18
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/02/14 at 12:40:53:
Remember NAFTA? Look at the world. The promise of NAFTA was to"level the playing field",implying to the American people that the goal was to lift the standard of living in other places,but what they really wanted and accomplished was to drive US down. Look at the countries that have been invaded. NONE of them were part of the IMF,World Bank game. Each was sovereign money based. I could type all day and not be able to make it all clear. I have been digging into this stuff for 15 years,while most people were at work,I was looking for rational answers to questions Not Addressed on the news.

Nice post! I think you are right.
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