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Flat tire on the road...
03/31/14 at 14:09:16

I'm making some plans for 3-day trip in May and I'm collecting some tips & tricks, a list of the tools and gadgets have to bring with me, etc.
Never had flat tire so never fixed it. Checked many YouTube videos and I think I know what's going on. Most likely would do a little "training" in my garage before I go.
Though, I never figured it out how, "on the road", lift the front or the rear part of the bike to take of the wheel?!?

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Reply #1 - 03/31/14 at 14:31:05

real pain to change a flat on the road.. after getting the tire off the bike, which is not easy without a jack, you still need to break the bead at the rim.. Last time I had a motorist drive over my tire to break the bead, and it almost didn't come loose..

many folks just carry a can of "Fix-a-Flat" which doesn't always work..
I try to time the long journeys to coincide with (almost) new tires

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Re: Flat tire on the road...
Reply #2 - 03/31/14 at 14:47:13

shorty wrote on 03/31/14 at 14:31:05:

... after getting the tire off the bike...

Ok. You just skipped the few steps: How did you take the tire off?

shorty wrote on 03/31/14 at 14:31:05:

... many folks just carry a can of "Fix-a-Flat" which doesn't always work...

Hm. I thought it works with tubeless tires only?!?

shorty wrote on 03/31/14 at 14:31:05:

... I try to time the long journeys to coincide with (almost) new tires

Believe me, a nail goes through new tire too.
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Re: Flat tire on the road...
Reply #3 - 03/31/14 at 15:18:04

Afan wrote on 03/31/14 at 14:09:16:

Though, I never figured it out how, "on the road", lift the front or the rear part of the bike to take of the wheel?!?

For the most part... and you being a newb... I'd say forgetaboutit.
This will be an all day task and you'll be in no condition to go anywhere.
And that's if you fix it the 1st time.

And you're right to do some training if this is what you intend to do.

1st part, Break loose all nuts and bolts associated.
front wheel-pinch bolt and axle.
rear wheel-axle, brake cable optional-left shock and belt guard.

Part 2, getting wheel in air. find an appropriate sized log, brick, rock or whatever to put under the bike and lift the wheel an inch or two. I wouldn't 2 of anything unless they were very stable. You don't want it tipping over on you.

You could take a rope and hang it from something. Don't use a Joshua tree, they're protected and could break and fall on you just in time for ol' smokey to come by. After laughing his a$$ off he'll give you a ticket, maybe he'll call a paramedic or pull the needles out 1 by 1. Grin

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Re: Flat tire on the road...
Reply #7 - 03/31/14 at 16:21:16

verslagen1 wrote on 03/31/14 at 15:18:04:

For the most part... and you being a newb... I'd say forgetaboutit.
This will be an all day task and you'll be in no condition to go anywhere.
And that's if you fix it the 1st time.

And you're right to do some training if this is what you intend to do.

1st part, Break loose all nuts and bolts associated.
front wheel-pinch bolt and axle.
rear wheel-axle, brake cable optional-left shock and belt guard.

Part 2, getting wheel in air. find an appropriate sized log, brick, rock or whatever to put under the bike and lift the wheel an inch or two. I wouldn't 2 of anything unless they were very stable. You don't want it tipping over on you.

You could take a rope and hang it from something. Don't use a Joshua tree, they're protected and could break and fall on you just in time for ol' smokey to come by. After laughing his a$$ off he'll give you a ticket, maybe he'll call a paramedic or pull the needles out 1 by 1.

more later I'm sure.

Ok. Got your point. You're right...

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Afan Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 156 Des Moines, IA Gender:	Re: Flat tire on the road... Reply #8 - 03/31/14 at 16:22:07 ToesNose wrote on 03/31/14 at 15:19:02: Join AMA free road side assistance! Thanks. This was $2, not 2c.
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Re: Flat tire on the road...
Reply #10 - 03/31/14 at 18:41:27

(I don't recommend doing what I'm about to post)

I once had to get my rear wheel off with no jack on hand.

I slid a plastic dairy crate to the front of the frame. Then, I turned the rear brake adjustment in until the rear wheel locked. I lifted the bike from the front, hands on the frame, until I could kick the crate under the frame. Took 5 tries, a lot of grunting, and I spewed words that can't be posted on this site. After getting it on the crate, I strapped the machine to the crate to stabilize it.

Once I had it up on the crate I was able to see-saw the machine to raise either wheel.

To get it off the crate, I undid the strap and wiggled the bike until it fell off, then made sure it didn't fall on me. This all happened in a dirt/gravel parking lot.

And yeah, I started the bike, tried to take off and it would just die when I released the clutch. I took me about an hour to figure out why Embarrassed

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Reply #11 - 03/31/14 at 19:03:52

Front is a snap. Find a stick , or rock, about so long. Push the bike over on its side stand and shove the stick under the high side. Like in the pic. Put it in 1st so it can't roll away.take the wheel out. Safe as houses. It's really easy to push the bike over,much easier than lifting the whole thing onto a crate . The side stand is strong enough.

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Re: Flat tire on the road...
Reply #12 - 03/31/14 at 19:04:53

Back wheel,a bit tougher. If yours still has this bracket, it's the perfect jacking point. If you have a jack handy. Else you'll be lifting the back to slide something under there. The side stand on the Cabbage is too far forward for the stick trick to work on the rear wheel. would work if it were further back.
I've always found tyres come off the bead pretty easy, and can get a tyre off and on with 2 tyre levers or 1 lever and a rubber mallet.
That spray in goo is the easiest way though.
Funny thing, my new Enfield GT came with a set of tyre levers and stuff in the tool kit. I guess they expect this kind of thing in India Cheesy

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Re: Flat tire on the road...
Reply #13 - 03/31/14 at 20:00:38

part 3, wheel off.
front, continue loosening the axle and pull it all the way out.
but before you do (what too late?) take a look at the spacers.
the disk side has a flange and a dust cup, the other just a dust cup... remember that.
rear, remove the nut and pull the axle, roll forward and slip the belt off. the optional part was pulling the shock and belt cover. if you're limited in lifting capacity, it might be easier to pull these and get the belt off, then when you pull the axle, the wheel will just roll off (down the hill, into the sunset... aloha... oi vay).

Now we've had a lot of fun and you're ready for the next part (just shoot thyself)
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Re: Flat tire on the road...
Reply #14 - 03/31/14 at 22:08:42

verslagen1 wrote on 03/31/14 at 20:00:38:

part 3, wheel off.
front, continue loosening the axle and pull it all the way out.
but before you do (what too late?) take a look at the spacers.
the disk side has a flange and a dust cup, the other just a dust cup... remember that.
rear, remove the nut and pull the axle, roll forward and slip the belt off. the optional part was pulling the shock and belt cover. if you're limited in lifting capacity, it might be easier to pull these and get the belt off, then when you pull the axle, the wheel will just roll off (down the hill, into the sunset... aloha... oi vay).

Now we've had a lot of fun and you're ready for the next part (just shoot thyself)
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1127685484

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