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Title: Flat tire on the road... Post by Afan on 03/31/14 at 14:09:16 I'm making some plans for 3-day trip in May and I'm collecting some tips & tricks, a list of the tools and gadgets have to bring with me, etc. Never had flat tire so never fixed it. Checked many YouTube videos and I think I know what's going on. Most likely would do a little "training" in my garage before I go. Though, I never figured it out how, "on the road", lift the front or the rear part of the bike to take of the wheel?!? |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by shorty on 03/31/14 at 14:31:05 real pain to change a flat on the road.. after getting the tire off the bike, which is not easy without a jack, you still need to break the bead at the rim.. Last time I had a motorist drive over my tire to break the bead, and it almost didn't come loose.. many folks just carry a can of "Fix-a-Flat" which doesn't always work.. I try to time the long journeys to coincide with (almost) new tires |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by Afan on 03/31/14 at 14:47:13 73616E736F6E6567000 wrote:
Ok. You just skipped the few steps: How did you take the tire off? 73616E736F6E6567000 wrote:
Hm. I thought it works with tubeless tires only?!? 73616E736F6E6567000 wrote:
Believe me, a nail goes through new tire too. :D |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by verslagen1 on 03/31/14 at 15:18:04 486F6867090 wrote:
For the most part... and you being a newb... I'd say forgetaboutit. This will be an all day task and you'll be in no condition to go anywhere. And that's if you fix it the 1st time. And you're right to do some training if this is what you intend to do. 1st part, Break loose all nuts and bolts associated. front wheel-pinch bolt and axle. rear wheel-axle, brake cable optional-left shock and belt guard. Part 2, getting wheel in air. find an appropriate sized log, brick, rock or whatever to put under the bike and lift the wheel an inch or two. I wouldn't 2 of anything unless they were very stable. You don't want it tipping over on you. You could take a rope and hang it from something. Don't use a Joshua tree, they're protected and could break and fall on you just in time for ol' smokey to come by. After laughing his a$$ off he'll give you a ticket, maybe he'll call a paramedic or pull the needles out 1 by 1. ;D more later I'm sure. |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by ToesNose on 03/31/14 at 15:19:02 Join AMA free road side assistance! ;) |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by shorty on 03/31/14 at 15:30:34 0F343E281534283E5B0 wrote:
^^this one |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by pgambr on 03/31/14 at 15:43:48 Quote:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1384282006 |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by Afan on 03/31/14 at 16:21:16 3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 wrote:
;D ;D ;D Ok. Got your point. You're right... |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by Afan on 03/31/14 at 16:22:07 0239332518392533560 wrote:
Thanks. This was $2, not 2c. |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by Afan on 03/31/14 at 16:23:35 3225232F2030420 wrote:
I needed this. Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by 1st2know on 03/31/14 at 18:41:27 (I don't recommend doing what I'm about to post) I once had to get my rear wheel off with no jack on hand. I slid a plastic dairy crate to the front of the frame. Then, I turned the rear brake adjustment in until the rear wheel locked. I lifted the bike from the front, hands on the frame, until I could kick the crate under the frame. Took 5 tries, a lot of grunting, and I spewed words that can't be posted on this site. After getting it on the crate, I strapped the machine to the crate to stabilize it. Once I had it up on the crate I was able to see-saw the machine to raise either wheel. To get it off the crate, I undid the strap and wiggled the bike until it fell off, then made sure it didn't fall on me. This all happened in a dirt/gravel parking lot. And yeah, I started the bike, tried to take off and it would just die when I released the clutch. I took me about an hour to figure out why :-[ |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by gizzo on 03/31/14 at 19:03:52 Front is a snap. Find a stick , or rock, about so long. Push the bike over on its side stand and shove the stick under the high side. Like in the pic. Put it in 1st so it can't roll away.take the wheel out. Safe as houses. It's really easy to push the bike over,much easier than lifting the whole thing onto a crate . The side stand is strong enough. |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by gizzo on 03/31/14 at 19:04:53 Back wheel,a bit tougher. If yours still has this bracket, it's the perfect jacking point. If you have a jack handy. Else you'll be lifting the back to slide something under there. The side stand on the Cabbage is too far forward for the stick trick to work on the rear wheel. would work if it were further back. I've always found tyres come off the bead pretty easy, and can get a tyre off and on with 2 tyre levers or 1 lever and a rubber mallet. That spray in goo is the easiest way though. Funny thing, my new Enfield GT came with a set of tyre levers and stuff in the tool kit. I guess they expect this kind of thing in India :D |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by verslagen1 on 03/31/14 at 20:00:38 part 3, wheel off. front, continue loosening the axle and pull it all the way out. but before you do (what too late?) take a look at the spacers. the disk side has a flange and a dust cup, the other just a dust cup... remember that. rear, remove the nut and pull the axle, roll forward and slip the belt off. the optional part was pulling the shock and belt cover. if you're limited in lifting capacity, it might be easier to pull these and get the belt off, then when you pull the axle, the wheel will just roll off (down the hill, into the sunset... aloha... oi vay). Now we've had a lot of fun and you're ready for the next part (just shoot thyself) http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1127685484 |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by S-P on 03/31/14 at 22:08:42 3F2C3B3A25282E2C2778490 wrote:
God made thumbs for hitch hiking for just such emergencies.... ;) |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by groupus on 04/01/14 at 06:53:03 Hey Afan, I too am planning a trip for the end of April. A bit longer than yours, from Lancaster PA to Denver CO and back, about 3400 miles and 48 hours of driving. I actually may be going right through Des Moines. I will be taking my stripped down 78 goldwing this time, but I have done lots 2 and 3 day trips on my savage. Anyway, I considered bringing a patch kit, but after changing my own tires recently, I would not want to have to do that along the side of the road, possibly at night, possibly in the middle of nowhere. Plus all the extras I would need to carry like tire spoons, rim protectors, mallet, tire lube, extra tube or patch kit, air pump (it has to be strong enough to reseat the bead!)... A can of fit a flat is more compact and should be enough to limp into a town that can fix it right. That way, at least I could relax with a cup of coffee while someone else does it instead of fighting with tire along the side of a highway for hours. :-/ I have never gotten a flat on a bike, and with almost new tires, it is even more unlikely. Tire changing can be a major pain and can take a long time. I would rather enjoy my vacation. |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by Afan on 04/01/14 at 07:56:48 746376637E6461110 wrote:
Please, let me know when you passing through. "One for the road" (coffee, of course ;)) and small Savage talk. |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by Dave on 04/01/14 at 09:13:56 You can also do your best to avoid the things that cause flats. If you stay on the paved road......your chances of getting a flat are slim...but it does happen on occasion. I did hit something on an exit ramp at night that put a whole in the sidewall of my car tire - but other than that the flats have always been caused by "OFF ROAD" stuff. Also there is a metal recycle place down the street from my office, and there are often some loose car parts in the street that have fallen off the crushed cars that are being hauled on the flat bed trucks. If the rain comes down hard and you head for an awning at some vacant and fire damaged building......watch out for broken glass. I got into that situation at the last Dragon Run and had a couple of small pieces of glass in my front tire. Also avoid pulling over on the shoulders, where I got a hunk of fence wire stuck in my tractor tire. Almost any flat I have gotten has been from driving in construction sites, the edge of the road, abandoned buildings, etc. And if you haven't changed 5 or 6 tires in the comfort of your garage.....the side of the road is not the place to do your first one. The process of getting the tire off the rim, and learning how to put the tube in without getting it pinched and putting new hole in it does take a bit of learning as well. If you are not a AAA member or your insurance company doesn't have it, then joining the American Motorcyclist Association will get you free road side assistance.....if you sign up for their automatic renewal option. |
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Title: Re: Flat tire on the road... Post by groupus on 04/02/14 at 13:04:16 6C4B4C432D0 wrote:
Please, let me know when you passing through. "One for the road" (coffee, of course ;)) and small Savage talk. [/quote] I'm shooting for Des Moines on the first leg of the return trip. I'll let you know. 8-) |
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