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03/23/14 at 22:01:43
 
At Daytona at the yamaha "set-up"  I saw a SR400 modle 2015.   I kinda got execited to see a single cylinder street bike , and have thought for some time that the 650 is allmost to big to be a one banger.  
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I checked it out when I got home

This bike is doing it's 35 year anaverserty in 2015 so they are bring it back to us .   Come to find out its been available in Japan for all this time.

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2015/2015-Yamaha-SR400.htm

The dealer said it has "Brush" type alt.  which is a big turn-off in my book ((have had three brushtype w/burned out rotors) all yamaha's)

but still interesting.   Anybody have one of these SR400's or the SR500''s  back in the 80's ?


Check-out the kick-starter !  Huh
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Re: yamaha SR400-2015
Reply #1 - 03/24/14 at 02:26:32
 
You can check out the full specs on yamy's website.  I'd like to look at on in person, pretty cool.   Cool

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Reply #2 - 03/24/14 at 04:16:56
 
I absolutely love the classic UJM styling and design, but at $5,990 MSRP I don't think these will fly out of the showrooms, if it were priced in the $4,500/$4,900 range I think they would sell quite well. For $5,990 I'd just find myself a Kawasaki W650   Wink
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Re: yamaha SR400-2015
Reply #3 - 03/24/14 at 12:12:23
 
ToesNose wrote on 03/24/14 at 04:16:56:
I absolutely love the classic UJM styling and design, but at $5,990 MSRP I don't think these will fly out of the showrooms, if it were priced in the $4,500/$4,900 range I think they would sell quite well. For $5,990 I'd just find myself a Kawasaki W650   Wink


Definitely not a $6,000 bike, or even a $5,000 bike iin my opinion, but I got my 2012 new in March of 2013 for $3,988 on sale so maybe that is skewing my thinking. I could see paying $4,000 for the Kawa 400, though, unless there was a bigger bike for the same price...
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Reply #4 - 03/24/14 at 14:12:13
 
nice to see a 400-500cc bike but the price is too high.. 2010 I got my showroom new s40 for $4k
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Reply #5 - 03/25/14 at 06:26:20
 
This may well be the type of bike that you get as a low mileage used bike at a reasonable price a couple of years from now.  Something the new rider uses for a bit, then moves on to something bigger and badder.
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Reply #6 - 03/27/14 at 15:37:34
 
Staggered into a local Yamaha dealership the other day to enquire whether the bike will be released in NZ, two or three sales people were standing around. I was the only prospective bill payer in the place, no one paid me any attention. After five minutes I left, another good reason to stick with my S40.
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Reply #7 - 03/29/14 at 14:37:04
 
Putting a brush type rotor in a high  vibration enviroment just doesn't show good judgement.
That Alt. being subject to burnning out and costing half the value of the bike to replace is enough to make me think Yamaha has no sense at all.  

The though of a 400cc shorter stroke single had me going at first sight
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Reply #8 - 03/30/14 at 04:43:40
 
Article in Cycle World says KICKSTART only. Not sure I can do that with my recently healed broken leg.. Cool
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Reply #9 - 03/30/14 at 13:36:56
 
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That Alt. being subject to burnning out and costing half the value of the bike to replace is enough to make me think Yamaha has no sense at all.  


MM, could you elaborate?  Is it that bad and expensive?  Just curious, thanks.
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Reply #10 - 04/01/14 at 00:19:26
 
Well Pgambr

The first one was a yamaha TwinJet 100 with a "Generator" with a wound rotor and the little brass bars that DC generators have.  When the rotor burned out I straped a car battery to it and would charge it once a week.

The second one was an AC. Alt. on a RD250 twin. It had the flat surface with two solid conecters for the brushes to ride on.   (small circle and a larger one -- brushes ridding 90 deg. to the crankshaft.).  All it took was one time of demanding too much juice from it to burn it out ... So ... I replaced it with a permant magnet from a honda.   Well the Honda magnet wasn't as strong as the electro-magnet so it wouldn't put out as much wattage.   Ridding without the headlight on worked great it was putting out about 50 watts with the permant magnet.

The third one was a SX650.  It had the same set-up as the RD250 and when it burned I said some ugly stuff , sold it (as-is), and said that's it no more brush type alt.  

I've had permant magnet alt. ever sense with-out any more problems.
And with most bikes being "Electric Start Only" you have to replace the battery when it starts getting weak --- so you can't run on a bad battery anymore , that might help them last longer.  But still "With the permant magnet system --- there's nothing to burn or replace (EVER).  The stator is bulit to take more than the permant magnet can put out --where the electro-magent can get stronger when the "Demand" is on , even to the point of frying itself.

Bike Bandit list the rotor for the SX650 at $380.00 (but not available)

Hope I didn't ramble on too much ???   Smiley


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Reply #11 - 04/01/14 at 02:19:54
 
Thanks MM, just a little curious.  It is still hard for me to believe it someone will have to kick start that guy every time.  If they continue to sell it for more than a year or two I bet they change it.  

Incidentally, I hope you have a good DR.  Post a couple pics!
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Re: yamaha SR400-2015
Reply #12 - 04/01/14 at 21:19:18
 
Dane Allen wrote on 03/24/14 at 12:12:23:
ToesNose wrote on 03/24/14 at 04:16:56:
I absolutely love the classic UJM styling and design, but at $5,990 MSRP I don't think these will fly out of the showrooms, if it were priced in the $4,500/$4,900 range I think they would sell quite well. For $5,990 I'd just find myself a Kawasaki W650   Wink


Definitely not a $6,000 bike, or even a $5,000 bike iin my opinion, but I got my 2012 new in March of 2013 for $3,988 on sale so maybe that is skewing my thinking. I could see paying $4,000 for the Kawa 400, though, unless there was a bigger bike for the same price...


Agreed - priced too high. I got my new 2011 S40 for $3,999 on 8-21-12.
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Reply #13 - 04/01/14 at 23:15:34
 
Doug wrote:  the Kawa 400, though, unless there was a bigger bike for the same price...

I've found "Bigger in not allways better".   one of my favorite bikes of all time was a Honda 350 twin. (it felt a lot like the S-40) but with mid pegs.  Smiley   powered about the same too !

I had a Kawasaki 440 for about 30,000 miles --- 6 bikes ago.   Liked it a lot too, but it was under powered compaired to the S-40's tork.  and the Honda 350 twin's power band.

Doug ,  What's your favorite so far ?

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Reply #14 - 04/02/14 at 06:21:48
 
My favorite so far ?  Present company(S40) excluded.  I grew up on Yamahas(YZ,IT,XT -  The 77 XT500 I had was modified(piston, cam, carb, exhaust). It also was a relative of the SR500(standard version) - XT500(endure version), both had the same mechanicals(basically).

The XT500 is still my favorite - unless you count my first bike : 74 Hodaka Super Combat 125


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