I regard health care as a right in the sense I would support taxes paying for those under 18, those over retirement age, those legitimately physically or mentally unable to support themselves. I support Medicaid with monitored criteria for coverage eligibility and would mandate that healthcare providers provide emergency care for anyone regardless of ability to pay. I support moving employers away from the primary supplier of healthcare. I support non-cancellation policies and guaranteed portability with a few limited exceptions for fraud. And as far as I can think of; that’s it.

The more we take responsibilities away from men and women who should provide for their families, the more we emasculate them. Federal mandates that ‘children’ up to age 26 can stay on their parent’s coverage is ridiculous. We keep adding corn to the bird feeder and further develop the concept of government dependence for the young and healthy.

I don’t know anyone, not a single person, who cannot stand the idea of poor people getting healthcare. No one. I don’t know where you get that idea from.

You did not have a debate; it was passed by one party of Congress where no one, and I mean no one, read the bill. You had your day in the Supreme Court and it was ruled to be a tax. You had your election where the media carried the failed President to another term at which point he began systematically doing away with parts of the law that weren’t working.

This law will be an albatross around the neck of the USA in so many different ways, it’s hard to count. There is no need for lies and misinformation to be spread by anyone except the administration which lies repeatedly about the statistics of those signing up. You can't  tell me with any degree of certainty who has signed up, why, who has paid etc... So far, the last estimate I saw was maybe 1 million who did not have insurance before all this have signed up. How many have paid is anyone’s guess because that’s top secret; at least until after the mid-terms. So, we did all of this, passed a  clearly unconstitutional law, set precedent that will be regretted until the nation's dying day, literally  knocked millions off their current insurance and kept people from their preferred doctors so 1 out of 46 million would sign up for healthcare insurance with some % of that million not even paying their premium? And that's something to be joyful about? Really?

I think in a civilized society, yes, it is up to others to provide certain things for those who are actually unable to provide for themselves. "Take care of orphans and widows".

You should know me well enough by now JOG that I am not in favor of handouts. I'm not sure you read my post carefully. At this point in my life, I do not need direct assistance. When I was 8 however, I was orphaned and for all practically purposes, abandoned in the inner city. Now, in my case, I had two aunts who tracked me down, took me in and raised me because their upbringing told them that it was their obligation to care for their own. In today’s world,  that’s becoming less and less the case. In today's world, they would apply for government assistance and become comfortable living in the semi-poverty that welfare, food stamps and other programs provide. Misery loves company and entire neighborhoods are content to settle for that lifestyle and blame the rich guy for their troubles rather than themselves. This is where liberals turn to and pat themselves on the backs. They are proud they've enslaved generation after generation.... it's disgusting.

What I think is among the worst outcomes of Obamacare is continuing a mindset that the young and healthy can turn to government for what historically has been their responsibility to provide for, and not only themselves, but for their families as well.

ACA is really a joke, they are depending on the healthy young to pay for the sickly old.  How many healthy young have good paying jobs that pay for their own HI?  Probably little to none.  All of them will have group HI paid for by their employers.  Otherwise the HY have minimum wage jobs and will be getting aid.