WebsterMark wrote on 02/21/14 at 07:50:17:GostThumper wrote on 02/20/14 at 22:17:51:Weather you believe it or not would you rather suck smoke stacks or have a few solar panels & wind turbines provide your power? Oh & the east coast & gulf have had hundred year storms every other year for the last 5-10 years... climate change/bad weather whatever is costs lots o $ & we're killin the planet... or mayb it will kill us when the environment gets too out of wack. Harmony w/our home will work better in long run! (& I have solar panels on my roof payin 1/2 my power bill take that Power Co monopoly LOL)
I'm throwing the bull$h!t flag here.... 15 yard penalty.....
the east coast and gulf have NOT had 100 year storms every other year for the last 5-10 years....
Second that - it's been at a near 30 year low. The sun is going into an extended dormancy period and the weather has been very mild with no increase in real temperature in the past 17 years. We have fallen out of all of the statistical models meaning that there is no global warming model that can be used to explain the current climate situation (or, more accurtately lack there of) so the real big story on the climate is there is no story, business as usual. Except for the billions wasted on some religious fantasy.
Quote:Wind turbines & solar are not going to EVER provide enough energy to sustain GROWTH. Wind turbines are fine if you want to go backwards a 100 years.
And the Chinese have near ruined the solar panel market. The materials they are using today are soo cheap and unsuitable for solar panels that they previously experienced lifespan of 20+ years is now aroud 3-7 years.
Quote:We've been screwing around with those two technologies forever; if they were gonna work, they would have done so by now. There is no magic formula waiting to be discovered that will make wind and solar provide enough energy for the masses. There is just no way to get enough energy density out of them.
They are working on an idea where the panels sit vertical in a box (like shelves in a bookshelf) with a special coating that reduces the number of photons bouncing out. Who knows where that is going???
Quote:I've got no problem putting solar panels on your roof, I've got no problem if everyone did and cut down a few coal plants, but don't freaking make me pay thousands more because you wrongly think the 'east coast is having 100 year storms every other year' because I drive an F150 4x4 or I keep my thermostat on 72 in the winter.
Try returning to the days of dredging silt-choaked rivers and live more than a few feet above sea level.