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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18096 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Smoke and Noise Oh my... Reply #15 - 12/15/13 at 10:22:02 Any chance the smoke on start up is just exhaust condensation in the cold exhaust system? He did report is was 45 degrees. An old mechanic showed my how to tell the difference between fuel and oil and oil in the exhaust. Place a mirror in front of the exhaust and see if the smoke is just water vapor.....or oil
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Re: Smoke and Noise Oh my...
Reply #16 - 12/15/13 at 10:37:30

My money is now riding on "bad gas".

Sight unseen, let me bet that you used a fuel stabilizer of some sort on the bike's gas (or possibly on the mower can).

With some evaporation to thicken the mix you may be just about running two stroke pre-mix at this stage of the game.

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(don't laugh, I had to learn the hard way to ACCURATELY MEASURE the amount of Stabil to the actual amount of gas in the tank)

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Smoke and Noise Oh my... Reply #17 - 12/15/13 at 11:56:20 Yea, weve seen some goofy hassles solved by draining the gas & dumpin some fresh in,, Thats the simplest thing to try & sure likely to do the trick. Save the gas that comes out, itll go in a 20 gallon tank & not hurt anything.
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S-P Serious Thumper Offline Back in the saddle again Posts: 816 Phoenix, AZ Gender:	Re: Smoke and Noise Oh my... Reply #18 - 12/15/13 at 12:33:57 No stabalizer in the gas for sure, but no telling what might have been in the gas can either. I'll drain the tank and put fresh hi-octane in and see what happens. I hope it's that simple!
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Smoke and Noise Oh my... Reply #19 - 12/15/13 at 13:31:59 No need for high octane, put regular in it. Its designed for it, runs great on it, dont add a variable, JUst get some fresh gas, a gallon is plenty. Im hoping you see a real change,
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S-P Serious Thumper Offline Back in the saddle again Posts: 816 Phoenix, AZ Gender:	Re: Smoke and Noise Oh my... Reply #20 - 12/15/13 at 14:10:26 Fresh gas just added, and yeppers, a real change! I'll do a valve adjustment later this week when I get some time and see if that quiets things down a little. By the way, are there any swap outs for spark plugs or is it just best to go with OEM?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Smoke and Noise Oh my... Reply #21 - 12/15/13 at 16:58:05 If youre hearing a whirring instead of a clickity,clickity, sewin machine sound, the valves may be tight, which is not good at all,,A little loose is a clattering sound, not ggreat, but survivable. Tight leads to unseated valves & burned seats & valves. Mite not wanna do much riding till ya get in there.
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S-P Serious Thumper Offline Back in the saddle again Posts: 816 Phoenix, AZ Gender:	Re: Smoke and Noise Oh my... Reply #22 - 12/15/13 at 23:48:23 JOG, thanks for the heads up. I'll do the valves before I take it on another spin. It'll be another Zen maintenance adventure.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Smoke and Noise Oh my... Reply #23 - 12/15/13 at 23:55:50 I think thats a decent plan,
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S-P Serious Thumper Offline Back in the saddle again Posts: 816 Phoenix, AZ Gender:	Cam Chain Replacement '86 Reply #24 - 12/21/13 at 22:41:59 So, do I need to remove the head (and thus the engine) to replace a cam chain on an '86? Thanks!
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wambr Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 610 Russia, Samara Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Replacement '86 Reply #25 - 12/21/13 at 22:59:40 as far as I know, it already seems unnecessary... the engine out of the frame may have to, but only if it is not possible to remove the cylinder head cover
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Replacement '86 Reply #26 - 12/21/13 at 23:06:01 i would, much easier just to pull the engine.
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Re: Cam Chain Replacement '86
Reply #27 - 12/22/13 at 07:45:34

Are there any tricks to pulling the engine? Like how to keep it in place once all the bolts are removed, the order, what HAS to come off the frame etc? Then getting it back in and held in place while re-installing bolts? That would be a cool tutorial in the tech doc section if anyone has already put that in the 700 forum discussions someplace. Thanks.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28642 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Replacement '86 Reply #28 - 12/22/13 at 08:48:24 Do you really need to replace the chain?... ... or just add a modded Versy adjuster?... I don't plan on doing chain replacement until it starts rattlin' on the second adjuster hole... It's quiet as a mouse now,.. at 32k miles...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Cam Chain Replacement '86 Reply #29 - 12/22/13 at 13:42:03 Ive had the cam out twice. Never pulled the head or engine. I ran some all thread thru where the peg bolts went just to keep the engine from drifting down. I cant remember how I dealt with the sidestand. Working on the clutch side isnt too hard, since it the high side when its on the stand,
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