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Starter Torque Limiter Repair
12/13/13 at 13:03:11
 
I have helped out a couple of times in putting these back together.
For those of you that face this daunting task, here's how to do it.

Here's the kit plus an extra washer that just came in the mail (hope you don't need that washer somewhere)


Look at the witness marks on each side of the gears and washers and you can reassemble w/out too much problem.

The small gear has a counterbore that the C clip on 1 end of the splined shaft has and it should nest almost completely in.
 
Then stack up washer-fiberdisk/gear/fiberdisk/gear/fiberdisk/gear/fiberdisk-washer/3xspring-wa
sher/bushing on the splined shaft.

And that's the easy part.

Get a vise and 2 identical height sockets and a 3rd to fit on the end of the shaft like so...

I did this vertically so it can be done single handed and used a magnet to hold 1 socket in place while I positioned the other.
Leave enough room between the sockets and the shaft to install the retaining ring.

Now squeeze that puppy till the groove is visible and install the ring.


Unfortunately, the guy sent the wrong retaining ring along with an extra washer.  
So I couldn't finish it off, but there you go... that's how to put the genie back in the bottle... if you have a cork.

What some guys will do for a laugh.   Grin
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Re: Starter Torque Limiter Repair
Reply #1 - 01/23/14 at 22:13:46
 
rings

both retaining rings are standard items.
you can get them from any of the retaining ring mfgr's

truarc 5100 or D1400


truarc 5103 or M1800
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Reply #2 - 02/11/14 at 17:41:25
 
Should there be any washers that go between the unit and the crankcase/both ends of the shaft?

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Re: Starter Torque Limiter Repair
Reply #3 - 02/11/14 at 17:54:16
 
slickiverson wrote on 02/11/14 at 17:41:25:
Should there be any washers that go between the unit and the crankcase/both ends of the shaft?


yes, there should be a washer on both ends of the torque limiter gear.
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Re: Starter Torque Limiter Repair
Reply #4 - 05/30/14 at 06:43:35
 
I know its an old post but i just received a starter clutch bought on ebay.
I dont know why but the guy messed with the snap rings, I need both of em to install it.
Is there a place online i can buy these two without aving to buy a box of 25?
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Reply #5 - 05/30/14 at 07:13:05
 
You might find them locally at a bearing house and you could try an auto store.
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Reply #6 - 05/30/14 at 14:23:35
 
kochic wrote on 05/30/14 at 06:43:35:
I know its an old post but i just received a starter clutch bought on ebay.
I dont know why but the guy messed with the snap rings, I need both of em to install it.
Is there a place online i can buy these two without aving to buy a box of 25?
Thanks,
Marc


Marc, I found some at Ace Hardware.
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Re: Starter Torque Limiter Repair
Reply #7 - 05/31/14 at 10:36:00
 
I will check monday at work, if I dont find any i will take a look at the canadian tire store.Hardware stores around my place stock only grade 2 bolts and nuts with very few metric bolts in 8.8
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Reply #8 - 02/25/16 at 05:05:20
 
OK....I am going to be a troublemaker here.

I bought a torque limiter without the snap rings.....I have no idea why someone would think it is a good idea to take this thing apart?  It is useless in pieces!

The D1400 and M1800 are a series of snap rings - but you also need to know the size to complete the part number.

Here are links to the chart....what size of ring do I need?

http://waldestruarc.com/pdfs/M1800.pdf
http://waldestruarc.com/pdfs/D1400.pdf
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Re: Starter Torque Limiter Repair
Reply #9 - 02/25/16 at 07:25:05
 
1st thing to recognize is S and G are different.
I would measure G and get the ring accordingly.

Yes I wouldn't take it apart if I didn't have to.
But, sometimes it gets stuck in the case and if you couldn't wiggle it out...
But I'd also have the good sense to keep the rings together with all the parts.
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Reply #10 - 02/25/16 at 08:14:31
 
I had a bit of trouble trying to measure "G"....my calipers are too fat to fully seat into the bottom of the groove.

I will give it another go tonight....now that I have the tables to compare the measurements with.
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Reply #11 - 02/25/16 at 08:24:11
 
If you're going to a bearing store for the rings, pretty sure they would have a blade mic to measure with.

I'll try to remember to locate the one I have and measure it too.
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Re: Starter Torque Limiter Repair
Reply #12 - 03/09/16 at 18:12:42
 
I wasn't able to figure out what I needed without taking a torque limiter apart that had the correct clips in place.

The end with the big washer needs a 14mm clip.'

The end of the shaft with the sprocket has a "keeper" made from 2 semi-circle pieces.  

I found that the 2 piece ring can be matched with a 1/2" snap ring, and I was able to cut the ends off 2 clips and make the missing pieces (only one is shown in the photograph).  I used a Dremel with a small cut off wheel to cut the ends off the ring, then a small stone wheel to smooth the cut ends.



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