Seen this on yahoo news, I know yahoo, but its a report from real reporting just that yahoo picked it up.

http://news.yahoo.com/afghanistan-iran-plan-cooperation-pact-amid-tensions-u-...

I read somewhere recently the US is planning on staying in Astan till 2024.

wage war, not wage increase....how you can tell the rulers from the rest.

WebsterMark wrote on 12/08/13 at 16:49:45:


Actually, you're quite right.

I remember reading essays on "The fall of the Dollar?" where analysts hypothesized the fall of the US$ if OPEC and China would start asking for Euros, not US$, for their international exports.

Saddam Hussein was so fed up of some nations "teasing" support, then pulling away when that support was needed with most urgency, that it turned elsewhere.
Odd how the UK and the US cried outrage when Iraq "took back" Kuwait, instead of justifying it with events from their own past national history.
Not many of you know Iraq was selling oil for EUROS when the fabricated mess of "WMD" was fed to the "Free World Media".
Actually, the risk was not that of WMDs, because what WMDs there were, were of US manufacture, and had been delivered "ready to roll", preventing Iraq from being able to producing them themselves.
The real problem was that Iraq was selling OIL asking payment in a currency which was antagonist to the US$, and in that day, more competitive than the US$.
If you don't believe me, go back and check the exchange rates Euro/US$ from 2000 (when it was an abstract "reference point") to 2003.

Similarly, Lybia was selling OIL and Natural Gas to Europe for Euros.
It was even easier to start a civil war in Lybia, because within the Country political power had always been split between Tripoli (Tripolitania) and Benghazi (Cirenaica).
Back in older days these were two separate entities, united only by Colonialism.

Now the issue seems to be... Iran... again... (as Forrest Gump would say)

It is a natural thing that two neighboring Shiite Countries, both "Islamic Republics", should shake hands.

Iran is an Islamic Republic since the day the Ayatollah Khomeini returned from exile.
Afghanistan, on the other hand, was made an Islamic Republic under ther Taliban Regime, and it stayed an Islamic Republic when the US put Hamid Karzai as the new President.
So I don't see what's "abnormal"... when two "cousins" sitting side by side shake hands.

The best way to make a dog snarl and become hostile at you is to chain it to the wall, and beat it with a stick.

The best way to make a dog be indifferent towards you is to leave it alone.

The best way to make a dog wag its tail at you is to be friendly, and feed it a little from time to time, but not too much, and not too often, lest it expects to be fed "gratis" (for free, and regularly, just because... that's what it's learned)

Just my 2 cents'...

My point being is that when all of the oil producing countries start to shake hands, our gas prices will double, maybe triple.
Because now we have become the dog that relies on the master to feed us, and if you whip the dog too long, its going to bite back.
In other words, they are now biting back, and are with this agreement going to become the owner and us the dogs, but we will end up paying the high price for their product.
But i'm thinking we will be the dog then and will also bite back in about a decade, maybe two, because our powers that be (OPTB) will screw crap up for us and hold the production of environmentally feasible vehicles to a minimum for another 20 years.
I see us going the way of highly populated cities in the other countries in that inner city vehicles will get smaller and lighter and the overland shipping vehicles will get larger and larger.
And hopefully we will go natural gas overland (which we have tons of)and electric in the city, there by putting the oil producing countries on the back burner so to speak.

Libia was pressing for a new gold Dinar and for oil to be traded in Dinars.

I am not so concerned about likes of Astan and Iran warming up to each other. I would be more concerned with China and Russia moving off the Dollar for oil trade. Such a thing is being hinted at and would be disasterous for the dollar.

Still even then,,, Like others on here have pointed out using the military might of the US to keep oil prices down was never smart.. and it wont ever be smart.  Time for the US to do right and stop beating dogs with sticks.

That's right. A friend that has been in the drilling business for 35+ years said we have enough oil for 300 years if we were aloud to get it.

I didnt say oil to put ON the market was the goal,,shutting their production down to prop prices UP AND protect the dollar, protecting the dollar was higher in priority,