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One small business's health insurance premiums
10/03/13 at 11:38:49
 
This morning our health insurance agent called to give me the news about the premium for our company plan.  But first some background:

We insure 3 people here at the law firm because all of the others are currently on spouses' plans.  I have deal with all employees - if your spouses' plan is equal to, or better than our coverage, I'll give you 1/2 of the premium I save by your going on your spouses plan.

We insure 4 people at the airport - same deal there, same savings sharing with employees who are on spouses' plans.

Our current premium for really good Anthem coverage is about $2400 per month, all of which the companies pay, with no contribution from the employees.

Starting December first, our increase will be 16% more - ouch, but we can live with that.

Anthem told our agent that a year from now, they predict a 91% increase.  So much for the Affordable Care part of ACA.  And probably, the end of totally employer paid insurance for our people.

And who wanted Obamacare?
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Reply #1 - 10/03/13 at 12:40:26
 
Looks like the Senate wanted it but see how many of them sign up for it.
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Reply #2 - 10/03/13 at 15:50:53
 
And then we move to the point that it was never about health insurance but, rather, a vehicle to overthrow the Constitutional Republic and replace it with a Fascist, Socialist Police State. But you ask a gret question, where are all the rationed care, death panel lovers to defend The One???
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Reply #3 - 10/03/13 at 16:00:12
 
Dane -
Socialist and Fascist anti antonyms.
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Reply #4 - 10/03/13 at 17:02:43
 
Socialist is in line with Canada, Great Britain, Germany, Spain and similar working health care systems.

What we are being offered is more Marxist than anything else.

People always confuse Socialism and Fascism. And Socialism with Communism/Marxism. Probably because the National Socialist Party was in fact more fascist, and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was in fact Marxist.

Socialism and Marxism are diametrically opposed.
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Reply #5 - 10/03/13 at 20:31:17
 
Interesting paragraph I read while ago  "ObamaCare is the most intrusive legislation on businesses and private citizens ever signed into American law.  Now, as the law’s unworkable intricacies are being exposed, Americans are becoming adamantly opposed to this tyrannical government healthcare scheme at a higher rate than ever before" I just love how the author explained it.
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Reply #6 - 10/04/13 at 06:45:13
 
Unfortunately, enough people were ignorant about Obamacare's impacts a year ago, or perhaps they would have voted Republican in order to quash it.
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Reply #7 - 10/04/13 at 08:27:46
 
The PEOPLE have made it clear enough,, they dont want this,,SOO,, the Dems should vote it down,,along with the bubs,,
Those who say it is good
Dont want it.

This is proof that we are not in a REpresentative Republic,,

But,, Im a radical,,because im not a brainwashed sheeple,.
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Reply #8 - 10/04/13 at 08:43:14
 
JOG -
We do have a representative republic.  It's the voters, those who think that the gov't is their provider and keeper, who have elected our representatives.
Every election, more and more parasites and "do-gooders" find their ways to the polls - be it on an Acorn provided bus, or as a result of "get out  the vote drives " by the Democrats.
That's why it's so frustrating to me when guys like you and Midnight waste your voters on third party, or marginal candidates, only to make a silent point that only you hear.
You keep telling people to wake up - my advice, respectfully, is that you guys wake up and vote Republican to try to stop the socialization of our country.  Stop throwing your vote away in a senseless protest that never succeeds.
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Reply #9 - 10/04/13 at 08:55:59
 
Jerry, I beg to differ. When the "Representatives" vote for what the people DO NOTWANT, they dont represent the wishes of the people,.
The voice of the [people has been ignored in DC since Kennedy was murdered,

Id bet everyone here has listened to the politicians tell us all what theyll do "If Elected", watched them Get elected & then they go do things they said they were against,Ill bet even you have voted for people who didnt DO what they told you they would do.. so,, lets not blame the people.
If the people were actually getting the results they wanted from their Voted For REpresentatives Congress wouldnt have such a low approval rating,
Youre a smart guy.,,so, why do you need the obvious explained?
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Reply #10 - 10/04/13 at 10:28:03
 
JOG -
Obama, Ried, Pelosi, et al told us exactly what they would do, and have done it; at least on the domestic issues.
Boehner likewise told the Ohio voters what he would do, and has done it.  Problem is simple - too many Dems keeping their word to the kinds of people who vote for them.
That is the obvious.
The kinds of people who elected JFK weren't the kinds of people who vote for Dems today.
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Reply #11 - 10/04/13 at 10:41:56
 
Over the last 40 years the number who have told us the opposite of what they did has been overwhelming,
& NO, Bammy didnt do what he said he would do,, well,, not the things we needed him to do,,he did what he said he would do w/ regard to destroying the coal industry,,but his broken campaign promises far outnumber the ones kept. As for the others,, IDK,, I DIDwatch Kennedy get re-elected when he shoulda been shuffled off, oiver & over,,
Youre correct about the lefties voting us into pain, but the same pain is wrought by the bubs, just from different knives & stab wounds. Both parties have had control & opportunity to right the ship of state,They dont,, There IS a dark hand at the wheel,, or a coupla presidents were delusional..
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Reply #12 - 10/04/13 at 11:11:38
 
I brought this up already.
It's a thread I made called Accountability.

Politicians can promise you the moon and there is no accountability whether they deliver or not.


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Reply #13 - 10/05/13 at 03:52:19
 
Jerry,  Romney made his living buying companies, laying off good workers, stripping them bare and exiting with a golden parachute. He changed his position every other day to the point it was made into a joke. Etch A Sketch. He helped set up a decent health care plan in Mass but as soon as he become a presidential candidate he was against it. He had overseas accounts he never paid taxes on and he paid less taxes percentage wise than you or I did. He refused to show us his taxes for several years. Monsanto is trying to destoy the earth and its population. Its one of my most hated companies and when I found out he represented them that was the final straw. I know he was a businessman but I don't like the way he did business. A man running for president in a nation of poor people complaining his car elevator isn't working right. The 42%. Where is his brain? On the other hand you had a charismatic liar putting his hand on the Bible swearing to uphold the Constitution all the while trying to destroy it. He would keep us preoccupied with threats to take our guns away all the time secretly going after our First, Fourth and 10th amendment. Rahm Emanuel is one of the biggest crooks on the planet straight out of Goldman Sachs and him and Obama are real tight. As soon as Obama was elected he put one of Monsanto's big wigs on his board of advisers. Jerry I know you are a very intelligent man, I read your book and it taught me a lot about flying, could have saved my life back then. You're a lot smarter than I am but I would have written my dogs name in before I could bring myself to vote for either one of them. As far as I am concerned the lower middle class I live in Bernie Sanders, Elisabeth Warren and Ron Paul are the only honest ones who could have helped me. Ron Paul knows more about what the Federal Government is really for than any of the Congressman and as far as I know I believe he's told the truth. He wanted us to stop trying to control the world and worry about getting our own house in order which I strongly believe in. If we pull our overseas troops in and shut down our embassy's, quit letting the CIA arm our enemies and start minding our own business the only terrorist we'll have to worry about are in Washington. Jerry I respect your opinion but I couldn't vote for either one and you'll never convince me I did the wrong thing. Have a good day my friend.
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Reply #14 - 10/05/13 at 04:15:50
 
If the Pubs will quit running clowns I'll vote for them. I voted for Bush the first time until he became a mass murderer. He admitted (and its on You Tube) he didn't care anything about catching Obama. I've been a Republican all my life until Bush's second term. They have racial morons like Rush, the world would be a lot better off without that man. The Tea Party is financed by the Kochs, they've got rich and left a major trail helping destroying their part of the planet. I'm not saying the Dems don't have idiots too. Obama got in with a lot of the white vote. If Hillary gets to run the next president will probably be Republican, only the minorities and the moochers will vote for her if Obama doesn't lead us into a civil war and destroy the country by then. He almost has now. Warren Buffect and all the big wigs are dumping American stocks at an alarming rate. China and Russia are looking for a new currency to replace the American dollar and most of the European country's have removed all the gold they had over here.
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