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Reply #15 - 10/02/13 at 15:54:53
 
LostArtist wrote on 10/02/13 at 13:31:00:
Dane Allen wrote on 10/02/13 at 09:10:15:
LostArtist wrote on 10/01/13 at 21:06:07:
Pine wrote on 09/26/13 at 06:44:33:
I was talking to buddy of mine.. and a person very much on board with Obama (which is fine) he said I read it wrong, and that it goes by income and that at less than $15000/yr, insurance is $1000/yr.

I dunno... I have a month to redo my own insurance, so when Oct 1 roles around and the state marketplace opens up ... I will look at that.

In the local news this morning... Mississippi ( you know the state.. not the river.. and the lowest income and highest poverty rate) well we are the third MOST expensive marketplace plans in the country. I forget the second place, but first place was Alaska.  

WD- hehe I wonder if my doctor would take re-loads.. he shoots, but mostly Skeet.  Wouldn't that be a pip!


a lot of states that refused to expand medicaid/medicare are going to be hurting their citizens as they haven't set up any exchanges so it's all on the federal government to set it up and well, not sure how that's all going to play out, but you do have until December something to get enrolled or whatever so hopefully that's enough time but with college/work schedule and all idk, if she's fairly healthy, maybe just pay the fines ....


They are not fines, penalties or anything else. It is a straight up tax, a tax based on nothing to generate yet another revenue source for the gov't. It is the most, brutal, unfair, exploitive tax that I can think of. If you need an example of oppression then look no further.



whatever, there's a price for everything if you wanna be free, it's gonna cost ya


I was free before, now, not so much. Now a panel gets to vote if I deserve treatment to save my life, assuming there are any skilled doctors left to provide the service.

Sorry Grandpa, the Board voted 5-2 against... Sad
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Re: OCT. 1 .... decisions decisions
Reply #16 - 10/02/13 at 18:13:22
 
Dane Allen wrote on 10/02/13 at 15:54:53:
LostArtist wrote on 10/02/13 at 13:31:00:
Dane Allen wrote on 10/02/13 at 09:10:15:
LostArtist wrote on 10/01/13 at 21:06:07:
Pine wrote on 09/26/13 at 06:44:33:
I was talking to buddy of mine.. and a person very much on board with Obama (which is fine) he said I read it wrong, and that it goes by income and that at less than $15000/yr, insurance is $1000/yr.

I dunno... I have a month to redo my own insurance, so when Oct 1 roles around and the state marketplace opens up ... I will look at that.

In the local news this morning... Mississippi ( you know the state.. not the river.. and the lowest income and highest poverty rate) well we are the third MOST expensive marketplace plans in the country. I forget the second place, but first place was Alaska.  

WD- hehe I wonder if my doctor would take re-loads.. he shoots, but mostly Skeet.  Wouldn't that be a pip!


a lot of states that refused to expand medicaid/medicare are going to be hurting their citizens as they haven't set up any exchanges so it's all on the federal government to set it up and well, not sure how that's all going to play out, but you do have until December something to get enrolled or whatever so hopefully that's enough time but with college/work schedule and all idk, if she's fairly healthy, maybe just pay the fines ....


They are not fines, penalties or anything else. It is a straight up tax, a tax based on nothing to generate yet another revenue source for the gov't. It is the most, brutal, unfair, exploitive tax that I can think of. If you need an example of oppression then look no further.



whatever, there's a price for everything if you wanna be free, it's gonna cost ya


I was free before, now, not so much. Now a panel gets to vote if I deserve treatment to save my life, assuming there are any skilled doctors left to provide the service.

Sorry Grandpa, the Board voted 5-2 against... Sad


that's not exactly how it works, their might be rationing of care, maybe, but you're buying some bad talking points. cause when it comes down to it, you are still buying PRIVATE insurance, and you might actually get some government money to help you buy it, this does give the government some leverage with insurance, but there's not a panel voting on your care, there might be some INSURANCE administrators pulling some BS though
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Re: OCT. 1 .... decisions decisions
Reply #17 - 10/02/13 at 18:58:16
 
their might be rationing of care??? Might?

You wait till you see how thats gonna get done,,Too old to be able to work enough to ADD to the GDP enough to justify that knee or eye surgery? Youll get a cane,, either one with a hook on top or one with ared tip.. Wait & see,, mite be a few years before they show their hand,, but thats whats coming,, YOu already forgot about the little girl who needed a lung transplant? Shed be dead today if Kathleen Cebelius had her way.
It was just the outrage of the people that saved her. One day soon the outrageous inhumanity wi8llo be so widespread & commonplace the people wont have time to respond to it all. WE ARE Broke,, & the insurance companies are Raking in $$ right now,, but soon, theyll close down & take their bazzillions & hang it all on the goobs, who will have no choice but ration care. Callme crazy,, again,, Ive been called that before,, but, seems like events tend to line up with what I said was coming,, give it 5 years,, then start crying,,
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Reply #18 - 10/02/13 at 19:04:20
 
Jog, what do you think about those big rocks over in GA?
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Reply #19 - 10/02/13 at 19:36:54
 
The global elite have ethics. They "telegraph" what theyre planning,,
Man & Other Animals says how they see us, Search that term,

They are DOING what it says. Thru economic destruction, they are working toward a 1 world currency,
Thru toxins they are destroying lives
Thru this bamicare they will destroy the economy ( whats left of it) & kill millions, & the toxic foods are killing us off,,They keep us distracted with hoaxes & made up crises while they ruin people with real toxins,, its amazing We ARE NUmber One, in Cancer,, now the NUmber One killer of people under 20,,

The Elite tell us what theyre gonna do & IF we dont acknowledge it & stop them, then they see it as proof that we are inferior & deserve whatever they do,Thats the way they roll,,
A felle who died last year met & got to know a Rockefeller who told him
AAAHAA,, AAron Russo,, Here,, see what he says,,

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/210207_rockefeller_friendship.html

If its not in there, Ill look some more,, I think thats the intervies Imwanting,,

Also, dont forget what David Rockefeller said in his biography,,

& stated in a speech,, Laff at me more,folks,,


http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=mcafee&hsimp=yhs-01&type=mc...


Anyone who was smart enough toread the NDAA & realize it meant any one of us needs to readAgenda 21. If you Dindt understand NDAA applied to Americans, Youll read agenda 21 & thinks its a good thing,,

MOst would hear this short speech & think its all benevolent.


http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=mcafee&hsimp=yhs-01&type=mc...


Agenda21 stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us8Yv4YLz9k
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Re: OCT. 1 .... decisions decisions
Reply #20 - 10/02/13 at 22:56:19
 
LostArtist wrote on 10/02/13 at 18:13:22:
Dane Allen wrote on 10/02/13 at 15:54:53:
LostArtist wrote on 10/02/13 at 13:31:00:
Dane Allen wrote on 10/02/13 at 09:10:15:
LostArtist wrote on 10/01/13 at 21:06:07:
Pine wrote on 09/26/13 at 06:44:33:
I was talking to buddy of mine.. and a person very much on board with Obama (which is fine) he said I read it wrong, and that it goes by income and that at less than $15000/yr, insurance is $1000/yr.

I dunno... I have a month to redo my own insurance, so when Oct 1 roles around and the state marketplace opens up ... I will look at that.

In the local news this morning... Mississippi ( you know the state.. not the river.. and the lowest income and highest poverty rate) well we are the third MOST expensive marketplace plans in the country. I forget the second place, but first place was Alaska.  

WD- hehe I wonder if my doctor would take re-loads.. he shoots, but mostly Skeet.  Wouldn't that be a pip!


a lot of states that refused to expand medicaid/medicare are going to be hurting their citizens as they haven't set up any exchanges so it's all on the federal government to set it up and well, not sure how that's all going to play out, but you do have until December something to get enrolled or whatever so hopefully that's enough time but with college/work schedule and all idk, if she's fairly healthy, maybe just pay the fines ....


They are not fines, penalties or anything else. It is a straight up tax, a tax based on nothing to generate yet another revenue source for the gov't. It is the most, brutal, unfair, exploitive tax that I can think of. If you need an example of oppression then look no further.



whatever, there's a price for everything if you wanna be free, it's gonna cost ya


I was free before, now, not so much. Now a panel gets to vote if I deserve treatment to save my life, assuming there are any skilled doctors left to provide the service.

Sorry Grandpa, the Board voted 5-2 against... Sad


that's not exactly how it works, their might be rationing of care, maybe, but you're buying some bad talking points. cause when it comes down to it, you are still buying PRIVATE insurance, and you might actually get some government money to help you buy it, this does give the government some leverage with insurance, but there's not a panel voting on your care, there might be some INSURANCE administrators pulling some BS though


They will definitely be rationing care and there are definitely panels of bureaucrats who will make life and death decisions for you based on costs. This is the beginning of the end of what America once was, we were a free Constitution Republic on Sept 30 and on Oct 1 be became a socialist fascist oligarchy. Your freedom has been discarded and your decisions will be made for you.
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Reply #21 - 10/03/13 at 01:03:07
 
Trippah let me start off by saying I hope all is well with the cancer. The Dr's complained about HMO's because a bigger load was placed upon them and their salary was frozen. Obamacare is a whole different animal and you'll rarely see a Doctor and how do you deal with a book with laws as thick or thicker than War And Peace. The only way for a Doctor to know if what he is doing is legal is having a fulltime lawyer. Obama added 20,000 pages to it without Congresses approval. And then the Senate who is supposed to be representing us voted for it. Polls showed a lot more than 50% were against it.
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Reply #22 - 10/03/13 at 01:41:30
 
WD wrote on 09/25/13 at 20:42:03:
Find an old country doc, barter for as much as you can, cash under the table income. Old country doc could mean the local large animal veterinarian, same meds, same dosages based on body weight and tissue mass estimates.

What, doesn't anybody else read some of the prepper sites? Quite entertaining... and sometimes actually correct.

Don't know what a prepper site is unless you're talking about the Survivalist. You've heard me talk about my diseases and Disabilities. I communicated on the net with an American Indian Doctor, Running Bear LOL. He'a a real doctor that specializes in autoimmune diseases like I have.He told me to take one tablespoon of Collidal Gold a day. My wife is talking about how much more energy I have now. I hve a nice Lund 17' fishing boat that's sat for the last 2 and 1/2 years and not cranked because I didn't feel like using it.. I got it running over the weekend. The carbs are stopped plum up on my Ninja and that's my project next week. Its also set for 2 years. I still hurt like Hell but I'm getting out and doing 3 times as much as I was before the Gold. My Mom makes Collidal Silver and she sells it to one Vet for animals. She uses it on cuts and scrapes and claims they heal twice as fast. You might have heard about the silver. Its more common and a lot easier to make than the gold. A lot of countryfolk make and use the silver. My wife uses it on our animals and it seems to work and it doesn't hurt humans. Like I said I'm still in a hell of a lot of pain but I cant sit still or watch TV like I use to. I'll let my wife be the final judge but no one can no longer say I'm worthless with all the gold in my system. Its $50 for a months supply but my wife is ordering more and as far as activity goes she claims I'm not the same person. Now if I could just find something for the pain that's legal. My land doest get enough sunlight to grow hemp to make rope out of LOL
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Reply #23 - 10/03/13 at 02:01:18
 
pg wrote on 10/02/13 at 19:04:20:
Jog, what do you think about those big rocks over in GA?

You didn't ask for my opinion but if you're talking about the Georgia Guidestone most people will believe a lie better than the truth even if the truth is right there in front of them. With whats coming out of Washington I honestly believe they want a civil war to thin the population. Our last 2 presidents have been tyrannical terrorist. We all know Bush started a war with the wrong country and killed thousands of innocents. Look at my Fema Camp post and make up your own mind about Obama.
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Reply #24 - 10/03/13 at 07:42:17
 
For Pain,,avoid things that create inflamation,, SUGAR,,corn, alcohol, heavy carbs, pasta. stuff like that,,If you need sweetener use stevia,,

http://www.drwhitaker.com/low-dose-naltrexone

increases endorphine production AND endorphine receptors,,
Ill be goin that way next dr visit,,

Get some PH paper, test spit & pee. Add lemon juice to water, few drops of Stevia & whammo,, instant lemonade,,Itraises your PH,, Kinda paradoxically, but it does,,You dont wanna be acidic, disease thrives in an acidic environment,
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