Oh yea, libertarians ... they had some sorta point like 15 years  ago.
Ship long since sailed.
Ron Paul by being smarter, managed to stay relevant a few more years ...
Seriously, the world has got very very inter-related libertarianism will not work.
We have subsidized industries in other countries who will continue to eat our lunch.
Simple example ... my college tuition was a paltry $10-12 a semester regardless of how many "credits" I took, as a result I took 179 in 4 years.
This was education considered the equal of MIT's BS in engineering ... and many of my classmates went on to MIT for grad school and sailed through ... $10 a semester. Under $100 a year. Why was it that cheap ... It had a heavy subsidy from the govt of India. No way someone with a 100,000 debt burden is ever going to compete with me. I was free to chase what I wanted, I didn't have a bill to pay end of each month. Japan, germany, most of europe etc etc all subsidize various things, health care, education etc etc.
Libertarianism is a lost cause, we will get killed by the rest of the world.
Cool.
Srinath.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/31/13 at 07:33:43:


Easy man, run your bike on lets say ... salt water in the motor instead of oil ...

How easy to spit on what's never been tried ...

Some sheiete flops in theory ...
Some of it works fine in theory ... and bombs in practice

Some of it bombs in theory, but works on practice, but that only because we start out wiht the wrong assumptions or the wrong something or the other or with too many unknowns.
This has bombed in theory ... and we have not even covered 1/2 the parameters, all of which make it worse and worse ...

Cool.
Srinath.

Midnightrider wrote on 07/31/13 at 20:50:20:


well Midnight, I thought you were gonna one way.. and instead you went for broke ( not a bad thing).  A couple of thoughts though:

Political Parties: well they started out one thing but have grown into something else. I don't hate the idea of political parties but I do hate what they have become and the power they yield.
State Rights: the "civil war" would more accurately be called the war of states rights. States lost and the Federal court ruling makes NO sense. But the one side won, and they made the ruling. (basically saying we won nana... if you had won, then you would have been right). Actually Washington has been VERT smart to make sure they can whip the states into line anything they please. The federal taxes supercede state taxes and the federal then dole out money to the state... don't wanna do what the feds say?? fine.. no dole for you! (MS lost a chunk of highway money like that)

Something I learned in High School- that has always stuck with me... and sadly I see more and more evidence of:

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely- Washington in a nutshell... if they aint evil when they go in.. just give them a few months ... they will be. ( conversely or they will be castrated by the powers already there).

As far as "can be bought" ... its my believes that they have been bought since G. H. Bush (but bought by the CIA, not corps), its been corps ever since.