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Doug B Full Member Offline I am, therefore I think Posts: 175 Kennewick, WA Gender:	oil question 07/22/13 at 07:47:07 Do all fully-synthetic oils(for motorcycles with wet clutches) have enough ZDDP levels(or something with equivalent protection) ? I just assumed(and I know better) that they did I have been using Amsoil since the 700-800 mile mark
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28637 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: oil question Reply #1 - 07/22/13 at 08:46:51 synthetic/dino are not related to ZDDP levels... Get a Motorcycle (JASO) approved oil... they have ZDDP and can be synth or dino... Shell Rotella oil is the "bang for the buck" motorcycle oil... although it's called a diesel oil, it is motorcycle approved... It comes in dino or (T6) synth...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: oil question Reply #2 - 07/22/13 at 12:52:48 Shell Rotella oil is the "bang for the buck" motorcycle oil.. Ive been seen hauling as many as 15 gallons out of the store at one time. It goes in my mower, 4 wheeler, back hoe & Suzy.
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: oil question Reply #3 - 07/22/13 at 15:38:58 I just put it in for the first time in my new bike yesterday, bout 75 miles since. I have noticed more chicks look at me now while riding....and I think it holds up better to the heat as well. It was so hot yesterday I rode in my speedos, but my bike just purred on....
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28637 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: oil question Reply #4 - 07/22/13 at 16:05:16 When I ride in my speedos the vultures notice me... ... Maybe I'll try it smeared in Rotella next time... ... What's the SPF rating?...
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: oil question Reply #5 - 07/22/13 at 16:19:50 Serowbot wrote on 07/22/13 at 16:05:16: When I ride in my speedos the vultures notice me... ... Maybe I'll try it smeared in Rotella next time... ... What's the SPF rating?... 666...
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Re: oil question
Reply #6 - 07/23/13 at 06:32:18

I know that much has been written about this topic in this forum, and maybe many of you veterans are tired of these types of questions(maybe that's why I got so few responses). However, I feel the need to press on. After the initial break-in of my new bike last August, I switched from the oil my bike came with from the factory(did this even have enough ZDDP levels). I decided to go with Amsoil(as I have used in my car). I haven't been able to find Amsoil's ZDDP levels. I thought that it would provide the necessary protection without adding a ZDDP product. Am I wrong ? Have I been causing damage for the past 1500 miles ? If I need to add some ZDDP I will, but too much would also be harmful. Please advise ! :'(

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PhantomII Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 96 Tampa, FL Gender:	Re: oil question Reply #7 - 07/23/13 at 07:12:25 Not sure if this helps you but there is a post about amsoil in this link: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366651397
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Reply #8 - 07/23/13 at 07:54:44

Amsoil is a good oil. I will not buy from them for the way they do business, MLM and their miss leading advertising. They were not the first to market synthetic oil.

Some interesting reading.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=11301...

Amsoil is a small company with only blending facilities, they don't have refineries to produce synthetic base stock oils.. Who do they buy these pao base stock oils from?

Their major supplier of PAO base stock is Exxon/Mobil, the largest producer of synthetic oils in the world. They purchase some Group III base stocks from Shell, Petro Canada, and others. About 90% of their additive packages come from Lubrizoil.

The answer to your question can be found in Amsoil's white papers.

http://www.dualies.com/downloads/files/Oil%20Test%20Results%20-%20g2156.pdf

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=721986

Myself, I use Redline 10W40 motorcycle oil. Its loaded with ZDDP. Mobil 1 racing 4T 10W40 motorcycle oil is pretty good as well. Both are JASO MA rated.

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