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Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial?
Reply #30 - 07/02/13 at 19:12:24

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Now we have Zimmerman on his back (supposedly), Travon on top of him (supposedly). Zimmy manages to free his gun one handed, wrest the gun upward just above his face and fires. The recoil Smacks him in the face, and ergo the bloody nose, lip, or whatever.

Sorry, still not buying it. The most plausible explanation for Zimmerman's bloody nose is the simplest one. Travon punched him. Getting smacked in the nose by his own gun strikes me as just an attempt to deny the obvious because you happen to believe Zimmerman is guilty of murder. Maybe he is. But I hope the jury decides that question based on the actual evidence and not on speculation about some remote possibility.

I've not shot a Keltec 9mm which I think is what Zimmerman used, but I've put quite a few rounds downrange from a Ruger LC9 which is pretty much a copy of the Keltec, and the recoil is pretty insignificant. Saying that a lightweight 9mm - or any 9mm for that matter- packs "a hell of a wallop" is a real strech IMO.

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As I've said before this kind of incident is just the thing to bring about more cries for gun restrictions if this guy gets away with this...you are metaphorically shooting yourself in the foot here.

So the case should be decided based on the possible political repercussions, rather than evidence and the law?

How about just convicting him cause if "he gets away with this" a whole lot of black people are gonna be really pissed and might retaliate.?

And consider this. Even if Zimmerman caused the whole incident by being stupid, once the fight started he had a right to defend himself. You don't lose that right because you're stupid, or a racist, or a wannabe cop or any of the other things he's been called. Even a dirtbag(And I don't happen to believe that Zimmerman is a dirtbag) has a right to keep himself from being harmed. Whether he was justified in using the amount of force he used defending himself is what this case is really about - nothing else.

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Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial?
Reply #31 - 07/02/13 at 19:22:18

"How about just convicting him cause if "he gets away with this" a whole lot of black people are gonna be really pissed and might retaliate.?"

Oh so, the race card now?

"And consider this. Even if Zimmerman caused the whole incident by being stupid, once the fight started he had a right to defend himself."

...and so he's NOT guilty because Travon punched him??? What about Travon's right to defend himself?

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Paraquat Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2206	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #32 - 07/02/13 at 19:38:34 Act like an animal, get treated like an animal. --Steve
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12912 Gender:	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #33 - 07/02/13 at 19:55:35 (I have an image of Zimmy's cell-mate....and he ain't white). Star, you really are a racist POS. you're too stupid to even know how racist that is. Blacks are only good for votes and a$$rap1ng crackers in jail. You suck.
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Starlifter Serious Thumper Offline It only snows seven months of the year here. Posts: 3746 Eastern Michigan Gender:	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #34 - 07/02/13 at 20:53:05 Ha ha, that didn't take long....heerrrrrrrss webby chiming in with his name calling.
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #35 - 07/02/13 at 23:19:19 Zimmerman isn't white... don't you remember, the magazine covers were doctored... even the more left leaning visual media recognized/admitted that they got conned. Web, you've been through the "dankest,darkest" parts of Memphis, you know that most young black males can't legally vote...
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12912 Gender:	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #36 - 07/03/13 at 05:11:20 Star, you are a piece of sh1t and a racist f'ing pig. It's more of a title with you..... Not following your line of thinking there WD.
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Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial?
Reply #37 - 07/03/13 at 06:02:42

Starlifter wrote on 07/02/13 at 19:22:18:

"How about just convicting him cause if "he gets away with this" a whole lot of black people are gonna be really pissed and might retaliate.?"

Oh so, the race card now?

"And consider this. Even if Zimmerman caused the whole incident by being stupid, once the fight started he had a right to defend himself."

...and so he's NOT guilty because Travon punched him??? What about Travon's right to defend himself?

Go back and reread what I wrote. The statements you quoted were questions directed at you, not statements of my opinion. The point I'm trying to make is that regardless of how you happen to feel about Zimmerman the guy is entitled to a fair trial based on the actual evidence.

As far as the "race card" goes, it isn't me that's throwing it down. That was done by most of the media and the usual race baiters - Jackson, Sharpton etc. - right from the beginning because they saw this situation as a perfect vehicle to further THEIR agenda. I shouldn't make any difference what color either of these guys are.

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What about Travon's right to defend himself?

If it's determined that Travon was the attacker then he forfeits that right. Same for Zimmerman if he attacked Travon. But based on the testimony so far that doesn't appear to be the case. So we're back to the question of whether Zimmerman's response was justified.

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Starlifter Serious Thumper Offline It only snows seven months of the year here. Posts: 3746 Eastern Michigan Gender:	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #38 - 07/03/13 at 12:52:49 "Star, you are a piece of sh1t and a racist f'ing pig. It's more of a title with you"..... ...odd responce, are you a bed wetter?
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12912 Gender:	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #39 - 07/03/13 at 13:11:00 That's a stupid retort.
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srinath Serious Thumper Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5349	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #40 - 07/05/13 at 19:02:32 Yea, that fool needs to go to jail. Never liked his "You're gonna like the way you look" ... The mens wearhouse fool. Now he's killed someone. Yea toss him in jail. "You're gonna look like a racist the way you look" and "bubba's gonna like the way your a$s looks". Cool. Srinath.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #41 - 07/05/13 at 20:36:44 ive never seen so much stupid in one place REALLY? None of us saw what happened IF TRayvon attacked him & got shot, he shouldnt have attacked him. if zimmy cat called him & goaded him into something, I hope he rots.. IDK what happened, but would you guys stop pretending youdo?
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Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial?
Reply #42 - 07/06/13 at 16:17:46

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/05/13 at 20:36:44:

ive never seen so much stupid in one place

REALLY?

Hey ... You gotta like the way you look ...
Jorge Zimmerman guarantees it, or he's gonna kill you.
If only Trayvon was wearing Mens wearhouse Hoodie, and had liked the way he looked ... he'd be alive now.

Cool.
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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial? Reply #43 - 07/07/13 at 11:40:39 We'll probably never know the real truth. Zimmerman has already been caught in one lie. If he would have followed police orders Trayvon would still be alive. That's my take on it.
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Re: Have you been watching the Zimmerman trial?
Reply #44 - 07/07/13 at 12:01:24

Midnightrider wrote on 07/07/13 at 11:40:39:

We'll probably never know the real truth. Zimmerman has already been caught in one lie. If he would have followed police orders Trayvon would still be alive. That's my take on it.

& if tray hadnt jumped on him, he would be alive.. NOT following police"orders" ? really? police say you do it,, then thats right? no,,

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