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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10689 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: quick question about rear shocks Reply #15 - 06/28/13 at 15:16:53 You can order the METRIC inserts for Progressive shocks; maybe $10-12, which will fit the Savage/S40.
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Gyrobob Serious Thumper Offline Posers ain't motorcyclists Posts: 2571 Newnan, GA Gender:	Re: quick question about rear shocks Reply #16 - 06/28/13 at 17:50:25 I have four stock shocks left over from the Double RYCA build.
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Re: quick question about rear shocks
Reply #17 - 06/29/13 at 08:24:25

engineer wrote on 06/28/13 at 14:11:48:

I checked a catalog and it looks like the 412-4233c is an 11" long chrome shock with a spring rate of 115/155 lbs per inch of travel. The Progressive shocks I have seen are all narrow at the ends like the Suzuki and come with rubber bushings and various sizes of hard bushings for the studs that they mount on.

Nobody wants to say the 412-4233c shocks would be OK and then see you spend your money to get something that doesn't fit right or feel right. The spring rate you have selected is what the Suzuki 800 Intruder uses and many people like it, others say it is soft. Your weight will have some effect.

Buying from Ebay the seller might not have the bushing size you want but you could probably order some from Progressive or make some out of tubing.

Short answer is I think it would be OK but this post will at least bump up your post and maybe someone who has actually fitted these Progressives on their bike will see it and give you a better opinion.

I have these exact shocks on mine. I weigh 250 lb. I have mine set at level 3. They are far superior to the stock shocks. They feel stiffer to me but bottom out far less than stock. On bad roads the rear wheel stays in contact better than with the stock ones. Because they are progressive, when they do bottom out it is far gentler than when the stock ones do.
Hope this helps.

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wearsabrowncoat Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 78 L.A. - lower Alabama Gender:	Re: quick question about rear shocks Reply #18 - 06/29/13 at 12:43:04 How does one install the 12.5" shocks? With the bike on a stand and the stock shocks off I need to have the 12.5" stocks slightly compressed to get them on. Local parts wharehouse rents out a spring compressor for cars but it is too big for my needs.
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Re: quick question about rear shocks
Reply #19 - 06/29/13 at 13:02:08

wearsabrowncoat wrote on 06/29/13 at 12:43:04:

How does one install the 12.5" shocks? With the bike on a stand and the stock shocks off I need to have the 12.5" stocks slightly compressed to get them on.

Local parts wharehouse rents out a spring compressor for cars but it is too big for my needs.

You take off both stock shocks, the swing arm drops down....and you install the longer shocks!

Easy Peasy!

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wearsabrowncoat Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 78 L.A. - lower Alabama Gender:	Re: quick question about rear shocks Reply #20 - 06/29/13 at 14:15:12 I did that and it doesn't drop down enough. They measure 12.5" eye to eye. What am I missing?
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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: quick question about rear shocks Reply #21 - 06/29/13 at 14:17:43 wearsabrowncoat wrote on 06/29/13 at 14:15:12: I did that and it doesn't drop down enough. They measure 12.5" eye to eye. What am I missing? Sounds like your swingarm bearings are sticking. Push it down with your hand.
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Reply #22 - 06/29/13 at 18:00:50

Put it back on the stand and pulled the stock shocks. Swing arm is dropping and the license plate on my BCB kit is hitting the exhaust. I ended up pulling the exhaust installing the 12.5" shocks. Then I took it off the stand in hopes the weight would compress the new shocks enough so the geometry would allow the exhaust to go back on without interfering with the license plate bracket. Still a no go so back with the stock shocks and a new search for heavy duty shocks in a stock length.

By the way. I have some nice 12.5" shocks for sale.

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Re: quick question about rear shocks
Reply #23 - 06/30/13 at 04:47:41

Since we're on shocks,, I know that WD has suggested Intruder 800/VS800 shocks as direct replacement shocks with improvement in handling for more weight on the LS650. I'm only 155Lbs. so the stock shocks are fine for me, but I love the look of solid cased shocks and was wondering if Marauder/VZ800 shocks would fit our LS650? Cool

I've tried to find specs for them as to the mounting hole size and offset measurements since in close up pics they look wider with thicker mounting points, but with no luck.

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Re: quick question about rear shocks
Reply #24 - 06/30/13 at 05:05:57

wearsabrowncoat wrote on 06/29/13 at 18:00:50:

Put it back on the stand and pulled the stock shocks. Swing arm is dropping and the license plate on my BCB kit is hitting the exhaust. I ended up pulling the exhaust installing the 12.5" shocks. Then I took it off the stand in hopes the weight would compress the new shocks enough so the geometry would allow the exhaust to go back on without interfering with the license plate bracket. Still a no go so back with the stock shocks and a new search for heavy duty shocks in a stock length.

By the way. I have some nice 12.5" shocks for sale.

Move your license plate to the other side. Most of them are on that side anyhow. You might need a different plate mount.....but the better ride is worth changing things.

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wearsabrowncoat Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 78 L.A. - lower Alabama Gender:	Re: quick question about rear shocks Reply #25 - 06/30/13 at 13:57:51 If I had a stock ride I would but the Blue Collar kit doesn't give me the option. I'll be looking for an 11" inch set of stocks now.
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Re: quick question about rear shocks
Reply #27 - 06/30/13 at 17:08:23

Toes, VZ is a VS variant, they'll work. Same sized mounting studs.

Started working on mine again today, if I can't get the rear fender gap right, it's going rigid, bad back be f'd. Rear fender is sitting too high and too far rearward with the 800 Intruder shocks on mine. How it would look with a stock fender... no idea, mine went to the melt yard 8 years ago in favor of a full fender. The dork-mobile factory tail light on the Savage and 800 Intruder ruins the lines, they should have run a VS1400 under tail style cat eye taillight.

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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: quick question about rear shocks Reply #28 - 06/30/13 at 17:11:43 savagebob wrote on 06/30/13 at 16:48:51: stock savage shocks are 10.5" aren't they? Yes that sounds about right.
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ToesNose Serious Thumper Offline Pardon me, do you have Hot Sauce? Posts: 1993 Mooresville, NC Gender:	Re: quick question about rear shocks Reply #29 - 07/01/13 at 04:32:13 Thanks for the 411 WD, I think the solid looking shocks will look cool. Also I agree that the stock toaster tail light is out of place, a cat's eye was one of the first things I did when I got my scoot.
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