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PS... I downloaded the Berg beheading video,... more than 10 years ago...  
I told myself I need to watch this,... even if I didn't want to,... because that man had to go through it...
It's the least I could do...
I still keep it on my computer... but, I've never watched it...
Just too horrible...
...(turns out,... I can do less)... ...
Comments?...

Something like this could make some our TT arguments seem petty, but that's not the case. This is the result of government policies. Let's wait and see how many times the London police had opportunities over the years to deal with this guy and didn't. I read it took 20 minutes for armed police to get there. Some woman in the crowd confronted him.

Sorry, but just like Boston when the cops ordered people to stay inside,  broke into people's home, searched basements but still missed him, ... we need to capability to defend ourselves and others. I have no intention of giving my right of self-defense because some pantie-waste mommy's boy doesn't think men & women are capable of carrying a weapon. Screw that....

Watched the news... but cant bring myself to watch an uncensored vid.. not today anyways.

The world is a much sadder place indeed when deeds like this occur.

WebsterMark wrote on 05/23/13 at 03:37:47:


I thought that place wasn't crowded and the attackers had guns as well. Knife is more personal and gory.
Cool.
Srinath.

Woolwich is my home town.. well I was born in Sheppy and a South East London lad.. I lived in Plumpstead just around the corner.. My Brothers still Live in the area..

RatdogWillie.. I appreciate your opinion but a young Man Died.... Make that as you will..

What is not needed in the UK is more Riots and Sensless Hate and to me it looks like it just may be a hot summer...

AJ

"Bet that poor guy wished someone in the crowd was packing heat before they wacked his head off."

Here we go again with your gun fetish...(packing heat?) ...ha ha, I think you are watching too much tee vee.

Okay, 32 gun deaths in the UK per year vs. 32,000 gun deaths per year in the US, 8000 of which are murders.

But you think the UK is a stupid and dangerous place because every Ton Dickk & Harry there isn't "packing heat"...snicker, I'll bet you are packing your "heater" even when you go to take a crap.

Grow up little cowboy.

Few months ago, crotch rocket blew by me on one wheel in traffic. Moron.
Totally irresponsible behavior. Down here in Georgia yesterday, some similar moron on a Harley with tubes for pipes, fired her up outside a gas station while these two ladies were walking by and blipped the throttle 3 or 4 times. Sounded like 4 bombs going off. Scared the crap out of them. you think they are gonna look at me on my quiet BMW the same way now? Not likely. the idiot reinforced every negative stereotype you can imagine.  

Why did those morons do those things? Who knows. I wouldn't. Do we get rid of all bikes? No, we demand responsible behavior from citizens who are free to make their own decisions. when those decisions have ramifications, we respond towards them with actions, including social shunning, fines even imprisonment. I don't ride with crotch rockets, I don't rip her open for no good reason. those guys did, whatever. I think it's dumb, but I'm not going to take away motorcycles because of it.

Let's try leaving people alone a little more. If I want to carry a gun, it's none of your darn business. If you want to rely on police for your defense in  any and all situations, fine, that's your business. Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone.

All I know is if you're the guy getting hacked and the police are 20 minutes away, you'd hope someone in that crowd had a gun and saved them.