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5000 rpm safe?
03/27/13 at 20:09:06

I was just reading the correspondence of RPM and speed in each gear.
I usually shift to my 3rd gear when its 30 mph...
it says that its about 4000 rpm
And that I could shift at 40 mph which would be 5000 rpm...
However, I feel like I'm going to damage the engine (mine is 1997 model with no re jet but drag pipe) ...
Do you guys think its safe?
Anybody now what is that RPM limit (normally red line in the tach) for suzuki savage??

I used to ride sports r-bikes and I just switched to savage so having hard time understanding the whole RPM difference...

Thank you!!

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28887 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #1 - 03/27/13 at 20:19:00 red line is said to be 6550 OF has gone beyond that you can't unless you miss a shift unless you hold WFO and don't shift on purpose... after your eyes pop out it may blow.
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Re: 5000 rpm safe?
Reply #2 - 03/27/13 at 21:57:05

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I've gone well past 70mph in 3rd... (she ain't giving much more up there,.. just beggin' for the next gear, but no damage)... the engine will just peter out before there's any damage...
You'll get faster acceleration, if you shift out to 4th at about 65 or 70... at least with my bike...

PS.. by "drag pipe" do you mean no muffler at all?...
No guarantees with that set-up...

Redline in 3rd, is 78mph... on your stock speedo...
(PS... redline.. is max revs, not max HP... you don't want to hit redline every shift, or maybe ever at all...
Max acceleration will come from shifting at a point that puts max HP in the middle of each gear... That's hard to judge... and will vary
HP peak is somewhere around 5.5k rpm.. )...

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45acp Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 153 on a shooting range in OK. Gender:	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #3 - 03/27/13 at 22:19:45 good info to have. i really like the graph serowbot. i was wondering the same thing the last time i rode. i thought i might be waiting to long to shift. according to the chart im doing okay. i guess now i can ride faster!
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Re: 5000 rpm safe?
Reply #4 - 03/27/13 at 22:37:07

Thank you, 45...
More detailed info here...
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1341162964
...( the charts here will differentiate between indicated speed and actual... and have a few different tire sizes)..
..(there is another Tech post showing info on the 4spd Savage)
(if your bike doesn't fit any chart,... go to...
http://www.gearingcommander.com/..
and feed in your own specs)...

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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2119 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #5 - 03/27/13 at 22:37:26 Handbook quotes the following at 6500rpm 1ST 35 MPH, 2ND 55MPH, 3RD 75 MPH, 4TH 90 MPH?? 5TH 100 MPH???
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28668 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #6 - 03/27/13 at 22:44:34 JC,.. those look approximately correct... they just rounded the numbers... A stock Savage doesn't have the power to reach redline in 4th or 5th...
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Reply #7 - 03/28/13 at 09:10:16

Thank you all~ I got the idea now haha great to know till where I could push my bike to have little more fun..
Well... you guys might not believe this,,, but When i got my last oil change.. I pushed the first gear about 35miles on a hill and oil cover (right side of my engine) explode and it were all over my feet so since that I was kinda worried...
Any idea what happened there??

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Re: 5000 rpm safe?
Reply #8 - 03/28/13 at 09:16:12

Kimito wrote on 03/28/13 at 09:10:16:

but When i got my last oil change.. I pushed the first gear about 35miles on a hill and oil cover (right side of my engine) explode and it were all over my feet so since that I was kinda worried...
Any idea what happened there??

I am not sure what happened with the grammer in that sentence.....but it sounds to me that the problem with the bike was somebody put your oil filter in backwards. The check valve would not let the oil flow and the pressure broke the filter cover.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28668 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #9 - 03/28/13 at 09:46:28 Yup,.. we've seen half dozen or more side cases blow from an oil filter installed backwards... ...
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18101 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #10 - 03/28/13 at 11:57:16 5,000-6,500 rpm is similar to the local biker bar. It is OK to go there every now and then.......But if you hang around there all the time - you will eventually get into trouble!
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ToesNose Serious Thumper Offline Pardon me, do you have Hot Sauce? Posts: 1993 Mooresville, NC Gender:	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #11 - 03/28/13 at 12:38:47 HaHaHa nicely put Dave.
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10668 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #12 - 03/28/13 at 17:54:21 Dave wrote on 03/28/13 at 11:57:16: 5,000-6,500 rpm is similar to the local biker bar. It is OK to go there every now and then.......But if you hang around there all the time - you will eventually get into trouble! Uh oh, I hang around that area frequently.
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scubachef Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 140	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #13 - 03/28/13 at 18:49:20 I commonly run between 5k-5.5k while on the freeway. What sorts of issues would occur from running that rpm regularly for sustained periods?
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18101 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: 5000 rpm safe? Reply #14 - 03/29/13 at 04:59:38 scubachef wrote on 03/28/13 at 18:49:20: I commonly run between 5k-5.5k while on the freeway. What sorts of issues would occur from running that rpm regularly for sustained periods? Based on that speed rpm chart....you are going between 75-85 mph. For starters.........you are speeding and could get a ticket!
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