He definitely has a one track mind. Has anyone told hime he lost? Blame Romney's loss on the 47% but in my mind Ryan drove the final nail in the casket. You can tell he's a self centered a$$hole just by looking at him.

THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT'S CALCULATION OF AVAILABLE SOCIAL SECURITY IS THEY FORGOT TO FIGURE IN THE PEOPLE WHO DIED BEFORE THEY EVER COLLECTED A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK!!!
WHERE DID THAT MONEY GO?

Remember, not only did you and I contribute to Social Security but your employer did, too. It totaled 15% of your income before taxes. If you averaged only $30K over your working life, that's close to $220,500. Read that again. Did you see where the Government paid in one single penny? We are talking about the money you and your employer put in a Government bank to insure you and I that we would have a retirement check from the money we put in, not the Government. Now they are calling the money we put in an entitlement when we reach the age to take it back. If you calculate the future invested value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer's contribution) at a simple 5% interest (less than what the govt. pays on the money that it borrows), after 49 years of working you'd have $892,919.98.

If you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $26,787.60 per year and it would last better than 30 years (until you're 95 if you retire at age 65) and that's with no interest paid on that final amount on deposit! If you bought an annuity and it paid 4% per year, you'd have a lifetime income of $2,976.40 per month.

Another thing with me.... I have two deceased husbands who died in their 50's, (one was 51 and the other one was 59 before one percent of their social security could be drawn. I worked all my life and am drawing 100% on my own social security). Their S.S. money will never have one cent drawn from what they paid into S.S. all their lives.

THE FOLKS IN WASHINGTON HAVE PULLED OFF A BIGGER PONZI SCHEME THAN BERNIE MADOFF EVER DID.

Entitlement my foot, I paid cash for my social security insurance! Just because they borrowed the money for other government spending, doesn't make my benefits some kind of charity or handout!!

Remember Congressional benefits? --- free healthcare, outrageous retirement packages, 67 paid holidays, three weeks paid vacation, unlimited paid sick days. Now that's welfare, and they have the nerve to call my social security retirement payments entitlements?

We're "broke" and we can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, or Homeless. Yet in the last few months we have provided aid to Haiti, Chile and Turkey. And now Pakistan......home of bin Laden. Literally, BILLIONS of DOLLARS!!!  And they can't help our own citizens in New York and New Jersey!  They sure rushed to help Katrina victims in 10 days!!!!!  I guess minorities have more clout!

Our retired seniors living on a 'fixed S.S. income' receive no additional federal aid nor do they get any financial breaks, while our government and religious organizations pour hundreds of billions of $$$ and tons of food to foreign countries!

They call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement even though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives, and now, when it's time for us to collect, the government is running out of money. Why did the government borrow from it in the first place? It was supposed to be in a locked box, not part of the general fund.

Sad isn't it? It seems the speaker of the House wants to screw us out of it. His retirement is protected and what did he contribute to it. It's 100% taxpayer contributions. Yes he will claim SS also based on his previous work.

Ryan just has the defect that the working class and the poor need to be bled dry. Atleast the liberals dont have that defect.

No one is advocating that we keep spending more than we take in. We will need to cut the expenses and raise taxes on the wealthy.

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And I love it when a family member is gay, republicans promptly change teams ... I mean from anti gay to pro gay .. Cheney ... OK in cheney's case it made him just the human anti christ, instead of a non human anti christ.

Rob Portman has become pro gay.

I think if we took away all of Paul Ryan's $$$ he may become human.

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Gyrobob wrote on 03/18/13 at 17:10:45:



And what you're saying isn't "senseless Repugs creed" ?

Here is an extra slice of reality for you in case you were on the high horse that you were making sense - you lost - by 11pm on november 4th. And this thread was about losing and still wanting to come back and shaft the working class - Its in the title.

So, the country doesn't agree with you by and large, cos this election was about economics and about a referendum on Obama.


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